Roommate Robbed at School!

[Vern Humphrey]

Years ago, I had a friend in Texas who was coming home from an oil rig job a couple of hundred miles from home. He stopped for a hitch hiker, and as the hitch hiker got in, my friend picked up the .357 he had on the front seat and transferred it to the door handle on his left side.

In the news the next day, he saw the hitch hiker's picture -- he had got a ride after my friend left him off, and killed the man who picked him up.

 

[rrruuunnn]

Panic alarm, deadbolt, cameras.

 

[Norinco982lover]

My father in law tells a (true) story about a family of hitchhikers...I believe it was in Mississippi (?) that would get rides from people. The mother and father would talk and distract the driver while the young son would slit the driver's throat. Let me look for a link...

 

[Fred Fuller]

WK,

Send your friends to look at http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/five_stages.html . Reading the whole site is worth while, but that URL fits best for starters.

There should be a phone in that classroom. After this, there should be a wireless intercom/panic button/alarm system or the like installed there too. I think the school would be willing to install something like that if they were motivated enough. I think a good attorney could motivate them.

Like a sidearm, a cell phone that is not carried on the person is useless...

hth,

lpl

 

[Vern Humphrey]

I think the school would be willing to install something like that if they were motivated enough. I think a good attorney could motivate them.

That's exactly what I've been saying. Dealing with a bureaucracy is like training a mule. You have to be patient, loving and gentle. But first you have to hit them between the eyes with a 2X4 to get their attention.

Consult a lawyer.

 

[rainbowbob]

2) Decide to help these guys (and potentially get robbed).

It's already been covered - but option two has no up-side.

Either these guys are lying with malice aforethought (as was the case)...

...Or there really are gun-toting assailants - in which case they would have become victims, not heroes.

The primary advantage exploited by sociopaths is the "normal" person's empathy and compassion. They count on naive people to fall for a sob-story of some kind.

It is unfortunate that in fact we DO need to be wary of exercising our humanity heedlessly.

In most cases, a person genuinely in need can find public services to help (in this case - the police).

Even if they did not have their phones, your friends should have told those at the door that the police had been called and were on the way.

 

[Ohio Gun Guy]

Turn off your humanity..... LOL

It’s called not being a SUCKER. They are playing you for a fool. They are using social norms against you. YOU have to be smarter than that. All that being said, it is sometimes difficult to tell, but if you are in a vulnerable position, then you need to act like it.

Alone at dusk and 3 youths need a light....not likely.

Stopped at a stop light in a bad part of town and someone needs you to roll down your window to ask directions......not likely

Stop to help someone on the road but their car is just around the corner, and oh ya, they don’t need to call someone, they would just like you to look at it....not likely.

Alone in a secluded trailer, 4 youths need your, and only your help.....not likely.

 

[rainbowbob]

As Ohio Gun Guy put it - You gotta pay attention and trust your instincts if it doesn't seem likely.

As another example; tonight (in the Seattle are) we had a pair of predator's videoed loitering in the parking lots near the exits at two separate malls, carefully choosing their victims before violently slamming them to the pavement and robbing them. The media inanely characterized them as a "Bonnie and Clyde Duo." (The perps are a male and female.)

Two gangsta types (why do they advertise?) loitering in a parking lot - not going in - not going to a car - should raise a flag for those that are paying attention.

 

[bikerdoc]

Doc's rule of interaction.

There are no good outcomes when approached by a stranger, or a knock at the door.
Therefore, call 911, limit conversation to get away from me, and be ready to commence a major rukus

 

[outerlimit]

1) Decide not to help these guys (and potentially have them die at the hands of an attacker you would have prevented had you decided to help them).

My advice is, if he had a bad vibe about these guys, he should have trusted his instincts.

Gut feelings rarely fail you, and I've learned to trust them.