Round count vs skill

[Double Naught Spy]

mercop said,

Don't read so far into it. Does a pass that does not connect count or not?

In Football, that depends on the defense and the receiver along with the quarterback...not just the quarterback. How much was the QB rushed? How covered were the receivers? How good is the receiver in catching the ball? While we don't judge a QB simply on his passes, we know that in football a QB's ability to be a successful passer will involve other players. You see, it is a team sport. The type of shooting you are talking about is not.

As for not reading so far into it, it was a poor analogy. You would have done better with golf.

mercop said,

After some correction I would estimate that he average shooter is about 30-40% better.

Michael Courtney said,

The average shooter is 30-40% better when they get warmed up.

mercop responded,

The truth is there is no warm up in a SD scenario.

No kidding? Most gunfights don't happen immediately following a range session? What MC was saying was that those shooters getting instruction are doing better because they have warmed up.

The folks at Rangemaster did that with our class several years ago. They gave us a cold shoot test to assess our skill on the first day. On the last last, we received the same test after being good and warmed up. Most of the students improved and the instructor claimed success because he had improved our ability to shoot. Funny thing, the testing wasn't valid. As MC was noting, it was a difference in a cold shoot versus shooting after being warmed up.

 

[jon_in_wv]

Some of you guys are acting like someone is arguing against firing a lot of rounds down range. I think your missing the argument. The Argument is that only GOOD practice is useful. One poster said he fired his first ten rounds and his last ten rounds accurately. This means the rest of the ammo in the session was fired much less accurately. His practice may be better served to shoot accurately ALL the time and build speed from there.

In summary: If you go to the range, fire 25 well aimed rounds and 175 "spray and pray". Which did you really practice? Take your time and learn good technique and how to shoot well FIRST. Then build your speed from there. Too many shooters put the cart before the horse.

 

[mercop]

yeah that

 

[JMusic]

I have shot both ways over my lifetime. I don't know if there's much difference. I think I shoot better over a period of time shooting small amounts every day. I was never much on dry fireing but if you are serious about shooting get yourself a good airsoft and shoot it some. Keep it close no more than 7 yards.

Over the last few years I try to shoot 3 times a week even if it's an airsoft. Once or twice a year I will hook up with a friend or take a weekend course and blow through a 1 or 2 grand.


I can shoot OK but I don't worry much about shooting tight groups for self defense. I practice getting to my gun and getting it out. Speed and anticipation are key. Practice drawing and hitting a paper plate at 5 yards quickly and you will have skills for 98% of what you may run into. I can't stress enough to be aware. You will always be quicker having your gun out ahead of time.

Jim