Ruger 10-22 Disappointment

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I have a 10/22 that I bought for my father for Christmas of 1965. Still have the box, all the papers, and the little "short order cook" sales slip carbon from Meltzer's in Garfield, NJ. - $48.50! He appreciated the thought, but never liked the rifle. A year or two after he got the rifle, I put a 6X Stoeger scope with a 1" tube on it. He carried back and forth to our camp in the Catskills, but I doubt if he put 5 boxes of cartridges through it. He died in '75 and I got the rifle. I don't paticularly care for it either, and it sits in the cabinet. My grand kids will shoot it from time to time, but that's about it. My No. 1's on the other hand...
 
I like the 10/22, but it's the most overrated .22 rimfire ever made.
Not hardly. It was designed as a plinker. A run of the mill .22LR rifle as a rimfire counterpart to the .44 carbine. Its design affords very easy and very economical modifications to make the old plinker anything its owner wants it to be. Name another rimfire rifle that can be built into anything with an allen wrench and a screwdriver??? Even the AR requires specialized tools and a headspace gauge to change the barrel.


Every one of my old Mossberg, Winchester, Marlin, Savage, and Remington rimfires will outshoot my 10/22s by a good margin.
That may or may not be debatable. No doubt the Ruger is not the most accurate rimfire on the market. It was never intended to be.


In order to get the 10/22 to run with any of the others, I'd have to spend more money than the gun cost for barrel, trigger, and bedding upgrades.
Money spent correctly will yield a very accurate rifle that shoots better than any other factory automatic and on par with many bolt guns. $40 gets you a crisp, 2-3lb trigger. Name another rifle that can have that for $40, on the kitchen table with hand tools. Name another .22 rifle that you can install a match grade barrel into with nothing more than an allen wrench and have your $200 plinker shooting bugholes. Name another .22 rifle that an aftermarket company would even bother producing a $300 all CNC machined 14oz trigger for.


The 10/22 is a good, fun rimfire, but it's not a great one.
Millions of 10/22 owners would probably disagree.


You'd be better off buying your son a Marlin 795 or 60 if you want an accurate, reliable .22 for hunting.
That's certainly an option. As one who cut his teeth with a Marlin 60, the Ruger is a better-made rifle out of the box. Even if Marlins do tend to be a little more accurate.


They're also lighter...
This is just untrue. Both range from 5-6lbs, except the target models. The little 16" 10/22FS and youth models are 4.3-4.5lbs. That's light!


...and better balanced, and the stock isn't so fat.
That's debatable. A 10/22 carbine balances right at the magazine. Which holds ten rounds and fits flush with the stock. Most other guns offer a 5-7rd magazine that protrudes. Which is fine, I have several like that. But you can't hold the fat stock against the Ruger and not mention the protruding magazines of lesser capacity of most other rifles. Ain't no free lunches.


I hate it because it isn't what it should be, for the current price.
Then don't buy one. Apparently lots of folks believe they are a good value. Otherwise Ruger would not have produced them in such quantities over the last 48yrs. Nor would they be constantly adding new configurations and variations.
 
I called Ruger and talked about the 10/22's. Look at the price point and to whom they are selling the things.

The chambers are huge, these are not match rifles. I took a .22LR round, placed it in the chamber and rocked the round by pressing on the rim. My Stevens M416 the bullet is engraved in the rifling, but that is a target rifle.

I put a Volquartsen barrel on my 10/22 and found I had to shoot the round out: it was too tight to extract. But the accuracy was much better.

Triggers suck and you have to buy an aftermarket trigger group for a match trigger because Ruger tolerances are so wide.

But, there are lots of people who never clean their rifles, can't shoot within the capability of match ammunition, and are perfectly happy can busting with their 10/22's.

You want a real precision rimfire? , go buy an Anschutz ANS 1710 22LR Classic Heavy Barrel 5 Round without Sights for $2000. Or if you want to win the National Championships a M2013 Super Match for $3,700 http://www.champchoice.com/prod-__N...OCK_PRECISE,_690mm__LG_GRIP__RIGHT_-3666.aspx If you can't win the National Champships with a 2013 than you are not trying hard enough!
 
Pretty much everything has been said at least once here. Try looking around at 10/22 tweaking posts. I understand your frustration(multiple bolt and gas guns built) but making the weapon work for you is part of the fun:)
 
DNZ Products makes a one-piece mount with integral rings for the 10/22. impossible for those rings to walk. use a little blue loctite when you mount the scope and i doubt you'll have any issues. it's lightweight and american made.
 
Loose scope base on 10-22

Sounds like the base is the problem to me also, but I have found some of the barrels are loose in the action. Take the screws out of the wedge under the barrel, if you can pull the barrel out by hand it's too loose. Iv'e knurlled the barrel fit to tighten it where it has to be tapped in with a block of wood and that solved the accury problem, should that be the case. Al
 
Your terminology is confusing because I think you're interchanging scope rings with scope base...But if your rings have the set screw that contacts the base, it's a system that needs extra stuff to properly engage the base...Probably to offset some lack in the ring's ability to fit the notches in the base. Get a set of Weaver rings to mount on your Weaver base. They're made to work together.
 
I bought a new 10/22 this past weekend at Wallyworld for $197 plus tax. I have an older model 10/22 that I have killed umpteen squirrels with but it has a 3x9 scope on it and I want my kids to feel comfortable shooting iron sights. Off a sandbag I can drill 2" patterns at 50 yards with the occasional flyer using the new gun and iron sights. I am old and cant see worth a darn so 2" is pretty good for me. We shot a total of around 1100 rounds this weekend using several .22s at different ranges. The new 10/22 jammed once on the 3rd 10 round magazine but never jammed again including several rounds with the 25 round mag I already had. I have several .22s in bolt, single and semi and the 10/22s are as accurate as any.
 
its a decent design for a cheap gun and its made as cheaply as possible. that's what you should expect.
 
Why is it that some people just cannot accept the facts? The 10/22 represents probably the best value in a .22 rifle today. We have a few, the oldest being mine from 1972 or 1973. The gun has literally tens of thousands of rounds through it.

Now, I also own a Marlin 795, a Marlin 60, a Stevens 987, and a host of older, no longer produced, Mossberg, Marlin, Winchester, Browning, and Remington .22 rifles. To me, the 10/22 is easily as accurate as they are. It's also more reliable than a number of other 1970-era guns that I own.

Most people want a fun .22 rifle. They plink with it, maybe hunt with it, and teach others with it. Why would anyone in their right minds spend hundreds of dollars more to do the same thing? A balloon, sitting at 100 yards isn't going to reflect 1/2 MOA accuracy. :)
 
I took out a large screwdriver and found that the main screw securing the receiver to the stock was less than finger tight.

We have had the identical problem, but I view it as pure enjoyment in problem solving. It is possible the bolt worked loose after several outings?

Locktite plus a field strip and cleaning after each outing did the trick for us. Frequent cleaning is a good idea for the the rifle's well being as well as my own mechanical experience.

I am curious about something you wrote: Bored by shooting multiple rounds through a dime hole, but annoyed by a loss of precision. I avoid both of these extremes in life and have a lot of fun with whatever happens.

I love the 10/22- and we are not even done sighting-in yet! The learning curve is enjoyment in itself.
 
Plus one for the 10-22. I bought one a while ago and took it to the range with my son. it took a little time to get it dialed in but it was all good.
Once you get the scope problem solved and resolve some of the teething pains of new rifle you will find it's a good shooter and lots of fun. Also some bonding time of father and son at the range.
 
I no longer own a 10/22 but I've found the following steps helpful when mounting scopes:
1.Scrap all slotted head screws and replace them with Torx or Allen heads.

2. Use brake cleaner to remove all oil/lube from screws and threaded holes.

3. Use removeable blue Loctite on base screws.

4. Let Loctite set overnight before mounting scope.

5. Use double sided tape inside scope rings.

6. Tighten scope rings with a torque wrench to 20 inch/pounds.

I carry my torque wrench in my range bag and check ring screws and action screws before every range session. Every one of my 5 CZ rimfires has a differernt torque setting on the action screws. I'm sure the also 10/22s have an accuracy sweet spot for the action screws torque setting. You'll have to experiment to find it. This may seem a little anal but I've found consistancy equals accuracy. YMMV. Good luck.
 
Those points are standard for just about any gun with a scope. I usually check screw tightness every cleaning, after I'm done.

Out latest Ruger 10/22 came with a true Weaver base in the box. If you have a Weaver base, it's not necessarily going to fit a dovetail ring mount properly. Weaver bases, oddly enough, are meant to be used with, dare I say it, Weaver style rings. :)
 
hi I'm in the uk & own a 3 year old ruger 10/22 with green mountain stainless fluted barrel
& laminated thumbhole stock! there is slight movement of the barrel/receiver relative to the stock approx 1mm at rear of the receiver! the screw "stock to receiver" is tight!
is this movement normal please?
 
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