Ruger 22 Automatic - An American Classic

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Garandimal said:
1. My freezer.

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2. Ruger MK II
"The MK II target model(KMK-678) had polygon rifling where other models had traditional land and groove riling."

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Figures. Wikipedia. That statement concerning "polygonal" rifling is bogus. Glock pistols have "polygonal" rifling, and they do NOT recommend shooting lead bullets in those barrels. You must already know that .22 Long Rifle cartridges have "lead bullets". 10 to 1, if you look into the barrel of your pistol, you will find that it has lands and grooves.
 
SGW Gunsmith said:
Figures. Wikipedia. That statement concerning "polygonal" rifling is bogus. Glock pistols have "polygonal" rifling, and they do NOT recommend shooting lead bullets in those barrels. You must already know that .22 Long Rifle cartridges have "lead bullets". 10 to 1, if you look into the barrel of your pistol, you will find that it has lands and grooves.
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Let us pray.

No, wait...

1. I have one, you do not. (I mentioned that, right?)
2. GLOCK - is not the only manufacturer (obviously) of polygon rifled firearms.
3. GLOCK - did not make the Ruger Mk II Target Bbl.
4. GLOCK - did not in any way state that you could not shoot exposed lead ammo out of it.
5. GLOCK - did not in any way state that polygonal rifled Bbls in general could not shoot exposed lead ammo.
6. GLOCK - only states that for Their pistols, they do not recommend it (and people still do it with apparently no problem).
7. I have one, you do not. (I mentioned that, right?)
8. Academics - is the pursuit of knowledge. Religion - is the belief in (and defense of) things unseen.
9. Just because You do not understand, it does not automatically make Me confused.
10.

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Garandimal said:
Well...

1. Yes, had the Mk II Target (KMK-678) out the other day just to check.
2. Yes, am familiar w/ polygonal rifling - as all my GLOCKs are rifled that way.
3. No, it's not "shot out", even though it's a very early '83 product and was bought NIB.
4. No, it's not leaded, as I only shoot jacketed ammo and don't shoot this one much, as it is mostly a field pistol, and it gets cleaned after every trip.
5. "Button rifling" is a manufacturing process, not a rifling type.
6. No, it's not "microgrooved" like a Marlin, although the polygons are separated by a very small groove.
7. Academics - is the pursuit of knowledge. Religion - is the belief in (and defense of) things unseen.
8. I have one, you do not. (I mentioned that, right?)
9. Just because You do not understand, it does not automatically make Me confused.
10.

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There are not any jacketed .22 LR bullets. They might have a copper wash on them but that is a very thin wash, you can still lead a barrel with them. Also, go here https://www.rugersociety.com/ and tell them about your polygon rifled pistol.
 
Well, my 1976 ( Liberty ) Mk1 Target with 6 7/8 inch heavy tapered barrel has a superb trigger right out of the box. The updated mag release and bolt open on last shot would be nice. Awesome pistol hdbiker
 
Garandimal said:
Let us pray.

No, wait...

1. I have one, you do not. (I mentioned that, right?)
2. GLOCK - is not the only manufacturer (obviously) of polygon rifled firearms.
3. GLOCK - did not make the Ruger Mk II Target Bbl.
4. GLOCK - did not in any way state that you could not shoot exposed lead ammo out of it.
5. GLOCK - did not in any way state that polygonal rifled Bbls in general could not shoot exposed lead ammo.
6. GLOCK - only states that for Their pistols, they do not recommend it (and people still do it with apparently no problem).
7. I have one, you do not. (I mentioned that, right?)
8. Academics - is the pursuit of knowledge. Religion - is the belief in (and defense of) things unseen.
9. Just because You do not understand, it does not automatically make Me confused.
10.

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And here I thought this pistol, that I've had for 9 years now, is a GLOCK:

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Gee whiz! I have a GLOCK.

The Mark II pistol you posted has a button-rifled bore with lands and grooves, same as this one, that I have:

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Oh! And even this one has button-rifled lands and grooves.

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If yours does have polygonal rifling, you have a very ***SPECIAL*** Ruger Mark pistol that's worth BIG BUCKS!
 
Riomouse911 said:
I just realized that lead bullets don’t work well with polygonal rifling, which is why Glock doesn’t recommend them in their polygonal barrels... Since .22 LR ammo is almost always lead, or lead with a very thin coppery wash, wouldn’t these lead bullets wipe lead into the polygonal grooves and quickly ruin accuracy?

Just wonderin...
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You are spot on with your assessment!
 
Hmmm in my academic history (BA Criminal Justice Management, MPS Criminal Justice) I know that citing anything from unverified sources like Wikipedia in any papers I wrote certainly wouldn’t pass muster with any of my professors, nor would I accept it from any of my students..,, but I digress.

Please take a bore photo, as many of us haven’t seen nor read of such an option and we are all big enough to accept and admit that we were mistaken. It’s clear that several folks on this thread are really interested in this rare version of a classic pistol.

Stay safe!
 
Riomouse911 said:
Hmmm in my academic history (BA Criminal Justice Management, MPS Criminal Justice) I know that citing anything from unverified sources like Wikipedia in any papers I wrote certainly wouldn’t pass muster with any of my professors, nor would I accept it from any of my students..,, but I digress.

Please take a bore photo, as many of us haven’t seen nor read of such an option and we are all big enough to accept and admit that we were mistaken. It’s clear that several folks on this thread are really interested in this rare version of a classic pistol.

Stay safe!
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Hey, I agree and I will be the FIRST one to accept my ignorance to the fact that you can prove you have a Ruger Mark pistol with the style rifling you claim to have. I'll post it in this thread, in BIG BOLD BLACK letters.
And, I'd really love to see a Ruger Mark II such as you profess.
 
Riomouse911 said:
I know that citing anything from unverified sources like Wikipedia in any papers I wrote certainly wouldn’t pass muster with any of my professors, nor would I accept it from any of my students..
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But, luckily, Garandimal doesn't need to reference Wikipedia as a source for answering the question at hand. He has the apparently only Ruger .22 auto pistol ever produced for the public to buy that has a polygon rifled bore. And because none of the responders in this thread has ever heard of such a rare production pistol, like Riomouse911, a photo of the bore in question would be greatly appreciated in the interest of knowing the full history of this "American Classic". After all, "truth is truth, even if no one believes it; a lie is a lie even if everyone believes it." I am a person who wants to believe the truth and doesn't want to believe a lie.
 
Riomouse911 said:
Hmmm in my academic history (BA Criminal Justice Management, MPS Criminal Justice) I know that citing anything from unverified sources like Wikipedia in any papers I wrote certainly wouldn’t pass muster with any of my professors, nor would I accept it from any of my students..,, but I digress.

Please take a bore photo, as many of us haven’t seen nor read of such an option and we are all big enough to accept and admit that we were mistaken. It’s clear that several folks on this thread are really interested in this rare version of a classic pistol.

Stay safe!
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Who's to say that Garandimal didn't edit Wiki?

I do note that there's no mention of polygonal rifling in the Wiki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Standard#MK_II

The link that Garandimal is using

https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Ruger_MK_II.html

comes from here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_MK_II?oldid=751551153

Note that it's an old page that is not current.
 
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That’s exactly why Wikipedia isn’t reliable, anyone can edit-add-subtract anything they want to without any oversight or recourse.

The references cited can be helpful if they’re legit, as those references may be used to further a position in a paper/document, but Wiki in and of itself as a “cited reference” isn’t.

Stay safe!
 
Texas10mm said:
Who's to say that Garandimal didn't edit Wiki?

I do note that there's no mention of polygonal rifling in the Wiki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Standard#MK_II

The link that Garandimal is using

https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Ruger_MK_II.html

comes from here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_MK_II?oldid=751551153

Note that it's an old page that is not current.
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First Religion... and now Conspiracy Theories...?

Heresy!

(I have one, I mentioned that, right?)

Let us pray.

Ha!




GR
 
I prefer the Buckmark’s ergonomics but there is a reason why the Ruger has been made for so long. It is vastly more durable and “nicer” than my Browing.

My dad has a MKIII that I always get to put back together... years between cleanings. Very reliable.

For whatever reason I don’t think the IV looks as good as the older models. A well worn MKI is sweet
 
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