Ruger American Rifle update

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Long post, sorry in advance, I just wanted to share some things that I did putting this rifle package together and how it seems to have worked out. From the couple of other threads where I was considering where to go with this first project for 2022, some may know that I set out looking for a budget rifle to mount a Hawke Sidewinder 30 4.5-14x42mm that has been sitting unused on my shelf for several year.

Motivated by some of the fun “first gun of 2022” type threads, I wanted to fill a niche of a budget (minimal out of pocket expense) setup with a plastic stock in a decent hunting caliber. The Ruger American series seemed like a good rifle for the low price, and the reviews seem to generally bear that out. At the recommendations of several on here I was looking for a predator model, but came across an unfired standard model in 6.5 Creedmoor that I could trade for in exchange for a handgun I was selling, so a mutually beneficial trade happened and I had my new rifle.

I ordered up some brass, 6.5 Staball, and 140 grain Hornady HPBT bullets. While waiting for those to be delivered, I got the scope mounted up using a set of rings that I had on hand, and decided to try to address a few of the “shortcomings” of the rifle (if you can even call them that on a $350 budget hunting rifle). The trigger was definitely on the heavy and vague side, the bolt made an annoying zipper sound when moving in or out, and the stock has the typical plastic stock hollow feel.

For the trigger, I swapped out the factory return spring for a lighter one (about 2/3 of a ball point pen spring), and added shims from triggershims between the blade and trigger and between the trigger and trigger housing. The result of this was a trigger that feels nice and solid with very little lateral play and breaks just under 2 pounds. There is essentially no take-up or creep, but a fair amount of overtravel that I can’t really do anything about. It is similar in class to the trigger on my Howa Mini, but is not even in the same league as the trigger on my CZ527, for some relative comparisons.

I polished the obvious machined striations out of the bolt with 400 grit then 1500 grit, then lubed the bolt up and cycled it a couple hundred times. The zipper sound is mostly gone, and it smoothed out decently well. I think it will continue to slick up a bit more with use.

I actually really like the thin shape of the stock. It is the most recent iteration, so it has a pretty good honeycomb in the forend. I left that alone, it was already free floated with plenty of clearance and reasonably stiff. The only real gripe I had was the hollow feel of the butt. As shade-tree as it sounds, I read a while back about someone packing the butt with plastic grocery bags (lets call it synthetic packing…) to get rid of the hollow sound. I had a big pile of that type of synthetic packing sitting in the corner and I figured if it doesn’t work I just pull them out, no harm-no foul. So, I started stuffing and packing it in with a small dowel and it actually worked really well. I used spray foam for the same purpose on a previous project, and the grocery bags were way more effective (and free, without the mess of dealing with the spray foam).

So, for a total of $9 for some shims, a free spring, and a huge pile of plastic bags that were trash anyway, and a couple hours of my time this rifle shaped up. Fairly smooth action, with an acceptable 2lb trigger and a stock that feels a little less like a cheap plastic stock.

I loaded up 20 of the HPBT bullets in lapua cases over the Staball, toward the bottom of published charge for 140gr bullets. I loaded them about 0.025” shy of jamming in the lands, which puts the OAL at 2.830. That functions fine in the magazine which is nice.

I got it to the range today briefly to put those first few rounds through it to sight in and get an idea of how it shoots.

The scope is decent, but not amazing, works well enough on this rifle. It has good optical clarity to 12x, but falls apart above that. The turrets are a little mushy, but work fine. I have yet to see how repeatable adjustments are.

Once I got sighted, I shot five 3 shot 100 yard groups keeping the barrel on the cooler side, with resulting groups between 1.24” and 0.42” with an average of 0.86” (if you ignore a group where I jerked the trigger and pulled the shot off a couple inches, which was 100% just bad shooting on my part). Given that I am still getting used to the rifle and trigger, the bag I was using at the rear was fighting me a bit to sit right, and that is without any load workup, I am quite happy with the outcome here. I would like to be able to get a better cheek weld, so I may add an adjustable comb, and I ordered up a bag that should work better. I don’t care if it shoots 1/2moa honestly, but if I can get good POA/POI consistency at that 0.86" average group size, it would be easily accurate enough for anything I am going to use it for. This is not intended to be a bench rest gun.

We will see how load development and stepping up to 5 shot groups goes, but it seems to have real promise for a budget hunting rifle setup. I completely forgot to take any pictures while I was shooting, but will update with some when I have it out shooting next. Thanks all for your advice concerning the Ruger American series, and I hope some of these tweaks etc. I made are helpful for someone else at some point.
 
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If I’m not mistaken the triggers on the Americans are user adjustable. Was yours not or was it just not adjusting to your liking?
Thanks for the write up

Yeah, they are user adjustable between about 3 and 5 pounds. I'm picky about triggers, and if I can make it better reasonably easily, I generally do. On these, a lighter return spring is an easy change. There are aftermarket springs available if one is inclined to go that way.

The trigger and safety blade on mine were pretty wobbly too, which gave it a cheap feel. The shims really tightened that up. The inside of the MIM trigger housing is rough, especially at the edge. In order to get a clean measurement for the correct shim thickness, and to ultimately get the shims in, I had to clean that edge up with some very light filing and emory cloth. It is a cheap fix if a person is up for a little tinkering, and it made a big difference in the feel. Doesn't change the pull weight obviously, but there is a lot more to a good trigger than just pull weight.
 
Yeah, they are user adjustable between about 3 and 5 pounds. I'm picky about triggers, and if I can make it better reasonably easily, I generally do. On these, a lighter return spring is an easy change. There are aftermarket springs available if one is inclined to go that way.

The trigger and safety blade on mine were pretty wobbly too, which gave it a cheap feel. The shims really tightened that up. The inside of the MIM trigger housing is rough, especially at the edge. In order to get a clean measurement for the correct shim thickness, and to ultimately get the shims in, I had to clean that edge up with some very light filing and emory cloth. It is a cheap fix if a person is up for a little tinkering, and it made a big difference in the feel. Doesn't change the pull weight obviously, but there is a lot more to a good trigger than just pull weight.
Yes I’m a bit snobbish about triggers. If I can do a quick polish or spring change to make a noticeable difference, I will do that.
I’m also familiar with how rough ruger likes to leave some areas of the guns that won’t be seen. The inside of my 10/22 receiver felt like it had gravel in it if you pulled the bolt back a certain way. Took some 800 then 1200 grit wet dry sand paper and smoothed the inside of the receiver. Made the action much smoother and now it cycles very low velocity ammo much better.
 
Ruger American are, IMHO, the absolute best choice in the "budget rifle" category, hands down. They also seem to be the easier rifles to modify and provide extremely good accuracy for very little investment in time and/or money. Congrats on the rifle. I remember your other thread and glad to see a positive follow up thread. Enjoy the rifle!
 
Ruger American are, IMHO, the absolute best choice in the "budget rifle" category, hands down. They also seem to be the easier rifles to modify and provide extremely good accuracy for very little investment in time and/or money. Congrats on the rifle. I remember your other thread and glad to see a positive follow up thread. Enjoy the rifle!
I agree with you about Ruger American rifles. My .22 WMR American looks amazing and shoots really well for a budget rifle.

I must admit that the stock wasn’t much at all. I was not impressed with it so I bought a Boyd’s laminated one and replaced it. So far it still shoots great and (I think) it looks a lot better.

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Stay safe.
 
My wife, got me a low round count ruger American (in 22-250) and a Boyd's stock last year as my winter project.

After a lot of tweeks, and a lot of load development, I couldn't get it to shoot, 12-14 inch group at 200 yards.

New barrel, faster twist, little heavier, it's now a 1 M.O.A. rifle ....all this for twice the price of my Savage with the same 1 M.O.A group size ....

I will never buy another ruger anything
 
Ruger American are, IMHO, the absolute best choice in the "budget rifle" category, hands down. They also seem to be the easier rifles to modify and provide extremely good accuracy for very little investment in time and/or money. Congrats on the rifle. I remember your other thread and glad to see a positive follow up thread. Enjoy the rifle!
I have a Ruger American Ranch, which I like pretty well...except that it won't feed if I try to work the bolt rapidly. I guess I'll have to hope I never need a quick second shot!

Is there a reason you prefer the Ruger over T/C for the same (or less) price?

John
 
Thanks all for the comments. As can probably be expected, despite the generally positive reviews I have seen, I am sure there are some less than stellar examples. So far, it seems I got lucky with this one, but time will tell. I spent some time resizing the brass I fired last weekend, and all the geometries of the fired cases seemed good. Nothing out of wack with head spacing, neck diameter, etc.

Is there a reason you prefer the Ruger over T/C for the same (or less) price?

John

I have no real objective reason for a preference for the Ruger. I actually have never handled a T/C Compass, but the reviews seem good on that one too, it probably would be as good a choice as the Ruger. Between the Savage, Ruger, and T/C (and probably Mossberg and others that I am forgetting), there are really some pretty impressive budget rifles being produced. I like the "fat bolt" three lug configuration of the Ruger and T/C, with the lower throw, which puts the savage a little lower on the list. Also, I haven't been as impressed by the off-the-shelf savages I have handled. Mostly, I am a a fan of Ruger carrying over from handguns, and have heard a seemingly high number of reports of them shooting quite well (although as pointed out by 55fairlane, that is clearly not a given). I like the shape of the factory stock quite a bit too, but that is completely subjective, I am sure there are plenty of folks that don't care for it, e.g.:

I agree with you about Ruger American rifles. My .22 WMR American looks amazing and shoots really well for a budget rifle.

I must admit that the stock wasn’t much at all. I was not impressed with it so I bought a Boyd’s laminated one and replaced it. So far it still shoots great and (I think) it looks a lot better.

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Stay safe.

That does look good in that stock, nice WMR! Thanks for posting.

I have that a Boyds Classic in that same color laminate on a Howa Mini. That wood makes a rifle pop for sure. If I ultimately decided to replace the factory stock on this Ruger, I would be tempted by a Boyds, but would be torn between that and one of the B&C Sporter stocks.
 
I also managed to get a really good deal on a Winchester XPR Compact a few years ago. I have more than one gun for everything, but that Winchester would be one of my first choices for deer. I keep it in a case with about 60 rounds of match HPBT and a spare mag.

John
 
Is there a reason you prefer the Ruger over T/C for the same (or less) price?

John

I prefer to stick with a brand that hasn't been bought and sold multiple times for one thing. And the second thing is I think the stock on the TC Compass if fugly! Can't stand the angle forend and the texture on the stock looks like a boot print. I've read good things about them, but I'm not a modern day Smith and Wesson fan and that's who is making the TC rifles now. Starting around the mid to late 1980s, S&W has gone downhill in my opinion. Just not a fan of their post-1980s stuff as a general rule.
 
My wife, got me a low round count ruger American (in 22-250) and a Boyd's stock last year as my winter project.

After a lot of tweeks, and a lot of load development, I couldn't get it to shoot, 12-14 inch group at 200 yards.

New barrel, faster twist, little heavier, it's now a 1 M.O.A. rifle ....all this for twice the price of my Savage with the same 1 M.O.A group size ....

I will never buy another ruger anything
What did Ruger say after you sent the rifle back for service?
 
Starting around the mid to late 1980s, S&W has gone downhill in my opinion. Just not a fan of their post-1980s stuff as a general rule.

The 1980s S&W revolvers were definitely a low point, but they haven't stayed there! Bangor Punta owned S&W 1965-1987.
 
My 80”s 686-3 is the last handgun that would leave my house in hard times . IMO they went undesirable when they caved in with the ILS . Also IMO they would have went the way of Remington if not for the M&P line of firearms .
 
My wife, got me a low round count ruger American (in 22-250) and a Boyd's stock last year as my winter project.

After a lot of tweeks, and a lot of load development, I couldn't get it to shoot, 12-14 inch group at 200 yards.

New barrel, faster twist, little heavier, it's now a 1 M.O.A. rifle ....all this for twice the price of my Savage with the same 1 M.O.A group size ....

I will never buy another ruger anything
By the sound of it you were trying to shoot Bullets heavier than the twist would stabilize….. hard to call that the fault of the rifle
 
I paid $350 each for the 3 Predators I have in 223, 308, and 6.5CM. The standard rifles at the time were $250-$300. At those prices, (if someone could resist the temptation to modify them) I felt they were the best budget gun out there. When you start replacing parts you can end up with $500-$600 in one and at $500-$600 there are better options out of the box.

The Predators are now closer to $500, the last one I actually saw was priced at $530. At that price I can no longer recommend one. I've had magazine issues with the standard magazines. My 223 takes AR magazines and works fine and the 308 uses AI "Style" mags and has worked perfectly.

I'm somewhat at a loss as to what to recommend any more in a budget gun. I guess I'd say Tikka. I can still get a blue Tikka T3x for $600. I'd much rather spend $600 on a Tikka than $500+ on a Ruger. When the Ruger was $350, I felt it was a no-brainer.
 
I paid $350 each for the 3 Predators I have in 223, 308, and 6.5CM. The standard rifles at the time were $250-$300. At those prices, (if someone could resist the temptation to modify them) I felt they were the best budget gun out there. When you start replacing parts you can end up with $500-$600 in one and at $500-$600 there are better options out of the box.

The Predators are now closer to $500, the last one I actually saw was priced at $530. At that price I can no longer recommend one. I've had magazine issues with the standard magazines. My 223 takes AR magazines and works fine and the 308 uses AI "Style" mags and has worked perfectly.

I'm somewhat at a loss as to what to recommend any more in a budget gun. I guess I'd say Tikka. I can still get a blue Tikka T3x for $600. I'd much rather spend $600 on a Tikka than $500+ on a Ruger. When the Ruger was $350, I felt it was a no-brainer.

That's kind of where I'm at as far as recommending budget guns.

I don't love the Axis rifles, but their price has managed to stay where I'd consider it a good value.
 
I agree with you about Ruger American rifles. My .22 WMR American looks amazing and shoots really well for a budget rifle.

I must admit that the stock wasn’t much at all. I was not impressed with it so I bought a Boyd’s laminated one and replaced it. So far it still shoots great and (I think) it looks a lot better.

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Stay safe.
I have the same gun, that I won in a local Fire Department Raffle, and now that I have seen yours in that laminated stock, I'm about to spend some money with Boyds. That is a great looking rifle by the way. What scope do you have on it? I had a brand new Leupold 3x9x40 Rimfire that I put on mine.
 
I just bought a American in .243 . I installed a Wicked Light on it for predator hunting at my house . I saw signs of a bobcat and I like to run my rabbit dogs everyday , so the cat had to go for the rabbits sake . I went out the same night after installing the light . I shot the cat in the head at 82 paces . I wanted a better shot because I wanted to stuff it , but I only had a head shot with it looking right at me . I just aimed between the red eyes . No stuffing it .
 
i have an american go wild 6.5 as do two friends of mine after getting to try it out. i have sub moa 5 shot groups with federal fusion 140 grain after putting about 50 rounds through it. They are an insane deal.
 
I paid $350 each for the 3 Predators I have in 223, 308, and 6.5CM. The standard rifles at the time were $250-$300. At those prices, (if someone could resist the temptation to modify them) I felt they were the best budget gun out there. When you start replacing parts you can end up with $500-$600 in one and at $500-$600 there are better options out of the box.

The Predators are now closer to $500, the last one I actually saw was priced at $530. At that price I can no longer recommend one. I've had magazine issues with the standard magazines. My 223 takes AR magazines and works fine and the 308 uses AI "Style" mags and has worked perfectly.

I'm somewhat at a loss as to what to recommend any more in a budget gun. I guess I'd say Tikka. I can still get a blue Tikka T3x for $600. I'd much rather spend $600 on a Tikka than $500+ on a Ruger. When the Ruger was $350, I felt it was a no-brainer.

I completely agree on the pricing, they become much less attractive once they are no longer budget. If you are putting $150-$300 of stock on it, and a replacement trigger, etc. there are other options. Around here Tikkas seem to be going in the same price range as the entry level Bergaras, more in the $700 range. But if you are buying a Ruger for $450-$500, it doesn't take much upgrading to be into a Tikka, Bergaras, or Howa.

Brownells sells the Howa 1500 as a barreled action, which is tempting too, but again, once you put it in a stock you are in that $700 range. My plan with this one was to keep it as cheap as possible, recycling parts from prior projects, and keeping it to low dollar "tweaks" rather than "upgrades".

The Savage axis Ii has definitely held it's price point down better than Ruger, Mossberg, etc. The Savage 10/110 series price point seems to sit between the Ruger American and the Tikka locally, and is a great platform especially if you plan to do lots of upgrades in the future. There is better aftermarket support for those than pretty much anything other than the Remington 700 action.

Anyway, I'm rambling. But bottom line, there is definitely a potential for some false economy in the budget rifles if you plan to try to turn it into something more than it is. On the flip side, if it shoots greats, and the mechanical functioning of the bolt and trigger are up to ones expectations, swapping stocks may be a worthwhile investment because the stocks on a fancier model may not fit any better despite the improved aesthetics.
 
There is also something to be said for the guys who buy a base model American for 400 dollars, slap a 40 dollar bipod, 250 dollar scope and some factory ammo and slap steel at 600+ yards. As for that economy factor my go wild was 600 flat after tax pretty much and for 70-80 dollars more i could've gotten a base model tikka or bergara .

When I looked at the ruger I got an included rail, a muzzle brake, ceracoat job that matches the terrain I hunt in, AICS mags, a thicker barrel contour without any real added weight and the ability to do some light work like smooth the action out and put a trigger kit in to have a stellar pull weight. All the while they shoot far better than anyone can shoot them in a leaned off a tree hunting scenario and sub moa off the bench. The value proposition of the ruger was fantastic in my book compared to most others.

It really depends on what you desire, my friend loves to talk about the tikka he uses and its a great rifle but i can shoot my ruger quite a bit better than he can his tikka. Ill admit they are very good rifles though and if you feel as though that is what you need more power to you.
 
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