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Ruger American, Thompson Center, or Remington 783.

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by d2wing, Nov 13, 2019.

  1. d2wing

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    A friend of mine needs a deer rifle and has a price limit of $300 or so. I would like to find a used Remington 700 but so far these are the only ones in his price range locally. Also a Savage Axis but a friend told me the Ruger is better. Also saw a Mossberg Patriot. Anyone own any of these? Remington 710 is available but already ruled out due to bad reviews. He likes the 30-06.
     
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    American or axis2 patriot isn't bad skip the budget Remingtons
     
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    Ruger, the t/c is a real tho.
     
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    Ruger American are awesome rifles for the money. I have a 308 that might be the most accurate right out of the box rifle I've ever shot.
     
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    Personally out of those I would go with the Ruger as well, although the price on the T/C I posted above would be really tempting as I’ve heard good things about them.
     
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    The patriot is like $300 to I sound not mind trying one. I think I am going to really like the m18, will see if they have more calibers for shot show. My get one to get coated for rainy days.
     
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    I did this yesterday with my Ruger Predator 223 @ 200 yards using Fiocchi 50 gr factory loads. That is a .372" group. Under .2 MOA. I used a target that someone else had left up. The taped over holes are not mine.

    Yea, I like the Ruger American rifles at any price. The fact that I paid $389 OTD including tax just makes it better.

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    Wow, good prices. The TC is well within the price range. But the Ruger sounds great.
     
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    FWIW my Compass outshoots my RAP (both 6.5CM) by a measurable amount and has from day 1. I reconfigured the Ruger for reasons unrelated to accuracy so it still needs some tuning but I’d call them apples to apples with a nod to the T/C for price. As much as I wanted an Patriot I couldn’t find a good reason to own yet another deer rifle my Home State won’t allow me to use on the critters. Were it not so I would have already bought several.

    As the owner of a 700, 870, and 1100 and despite all of them being reliable to a fault, Remington won’t be receiving future business from me without major changes.

    Edited to clarify: by measurable amount I mean generally no more than 1/4” at 100 yards or the approximate amount any given shooter may shoot one rifle as compared to another that fits slightly better.
     
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    I have the American, axis and the compass.
    It's hard to go wrong with any of them, they all have there pros and cons.
    A bonus for the axis is Savage has a $75 rebate going on till 12/2.

    If I had to choose one it would be a toss up between the American and the compass.
     
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    I didn't realize the 710 had bad reviews. In 2001 I got one in .270 as a graduation present. I've shot several .75 MOA groups with Hornady ammo, it's closer to 1.5 MOA with more run of the mil ammo.

    Admittedly the bolt doesn't operate nearly as smoothly as all-steel rifles and I'd skip it just for that reason. In today's market I'd go for the Thompson Center, especially considering the deals you can often find on them. Here's one for $229 shipped in 30-06 right now.

    https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsupers...r-compass-30-06-springfield-bolt-action-rifle
     
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    I've played with the Ruger American and the Mossberg Patriot and have ordered 4 or 5 T/C Compass. They all are great guns in this price range. I had a RA in 6.5 CM that shot better than my Vanguard or B-14 Bergara. I had a Patriot that shot 3/4" groups out of the box and under 1/2" after a little attention. The T/Cs that I have sold have been a big hit for the customers. Haven't had one complaint. I honestly believe that the wood stocked Mossbergs are one of the best buys out there. My only gripe is the sloppy bolt, but I could probably live with that.
     
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    I have owned the axis, marlin xs7, American, and compass.

    I haven't shot the compass yet.

    The American gets my vote as of now.

    If the compass shoots ad well and the American it would get my vote but that remains to be seen.
     
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    +1 on the American. Trigger mod is so easy and makes the American outstanding.
     
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    I have the RAR in 6.5 CM and I am 100% satisfied with it.
     
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    I'm looking at the Savage with the $75 rebate for my grandson (need daughters OK) I might get 2 so we can each have one alike just like our knives:). With the Savage you could get a Nikon or Vortex scope and decent mount for little more than $300 especially with black friday deals. 30-06 is a good round with lots of choices for ammo.
     
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    I went with the Ruger American for the aesthetics and the magazine system. I pleasantly found out its a shooter as well. I haven’t looked back since.
    I will echo the cold sentiment on current Remington products. I would stay and save your money for something a little better.
     
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    I like the looks of the 783.
     
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    I could really see myself buying the hardwood Savage axis II XP in 25-06.
     
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    American .223 @ 100 yds, 5 5-shot groups. Each load varied by 0.1gr, 2.250 COAL
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    Thanks for the replies. Today I talked to the young man and his father. Some discussion of 7 MM mag over 30-06 . Dad wants mag, Kid and I agreed on 30-06 for Cheaper to shoot, more versatile, and at expected ranges no serious advantage to 7 MM. I am going to review a couple rifles, TC Compass, Ruger RAR, and maybe Patriot in that order. Still open to other options.
     
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    I’ve heard good things about the new Mossberg hunting rifles. I cannot speak to the patriot but I do own a MVP in 5.56 and it is very accurate with 55gr Hornady SP’s. I’m beginning to wonder if Mossberg is flying under the radar with their new bolt actions. I may have to pick one up and see how they are someday.
     
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