ColtPythonElite
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IMO, a stainless Smith is about 2 notchs about a blued Ruger.
ruger gp100 vrs. s&w 64-3
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easyg
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I agree 100%
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The GP-100s are too heavy for .357s and far too heavy for .38 Specials. They make fine range guns and home defense guns, but I wouldn't have one. I'd much rather have the Smith 63 .22LR. If I were going to have a tank like the GP-100, it would be stainless steel and fire .357s. But in reality, I'd get a mint stainless Security-Six with a 4-inch barrel. Yeah, that's what I'd get....
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Wow, nice gun!
I do understand the point about the frame size for a non-magnum caliber. Based on some quick internet research, the oal of the cylinder is the same for both calibers on the gp 100, (not surprising because they use the same size frame).
So the .38 round sits in the ruger's .38 cylinder at the same distance from the forcing cone as a it would in a ruger .357 cylinder, right?
I do understand the point about the frame size for a non-magnum caliber. Based on some quick internet research, the oal of the cylinder is the same for both calibers on the gp 100, (not surprising because they use the same size frame).
So the .38 round sits in the ruger's .38 cylinder at the same distance from the forcing cone as a it would in a ruger .357 cylinder, right?
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I'd go with a 64 from J&G. If you don't like the bobbed hammer, replace it, it's still cheaper than the other 64.
You are correct. When you buy a Ruger 38 (in GP100 and Six Series) you are actually buying their 357. They stamp 38 on the barrel and bore the cartridge chamber a little shorter to prevent the insertion of the longer 357 (saves them mega bucks doing it this way). They are just as strong as the 357 and the cylinder is the same length and makeup. Remember, this is common knowledge not lawyer knowledge.
I'm a reloader not a lawyer so I have a lot of more fun with my Ruger 38s. This
is for all you lawyers (or wannabees), and yes I did forget to read the warning on the barrel . WARNING: The surgeon general has determined that listening to skidder is bad for your health.
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You are correct. When you buy a Ruger 38 (in GP100 and Six Series) you are actually buying their 357. They stamp 38 on the barrel and bore the cartridge chamber a little shorter to prevent the insertion of the longer 357 (saves them mega bucks doing it this way). They are just as strong as the 357 and the cylinder is the same length and makeup. Remember, this is common knowledge not lawyer knowledge.
I'm a reloader not a lawyer so I have a lot of more fun with my Ruger 38s. This
WARNING: The surgeon general has determined that listening to skidder is bad for your health.
I'm a lawyer and I take offense to this!
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ME EITHER!! Anyone know how easy (or hard) it would be to put a spurred hammer on one of those 64s from J&G??
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When I had my FFL, I got an astoundingly good price on two Ruger .38 Speed-Sixes. I subsequently had a gunsmith rechamber the gun to a .357. The smith was a stickler for detail and he made sure the chambers were perfectly "drilled." As a result, they both became some of my most accurate .357s. I could take .357 125gr JHP bullets and drop one in each chamber, and they'd stick! In many .357s, it's not unusual to have several just drop through. That's just the way tolerances are. But I paid a cheap price for the guns, then paid almost nothing for the rechambering, and I ended up with two extremely accurate .357s!
This Speed-Six began life as a .38 Special. It's now a .357, and a very accurate
one at that!
This Speed-Six began life as a .38 Special. It's now a .357, and a very accurate
one at that!
Apologize for the loose comment. It was more of an analogy directed to those lawyers and armchair lawyers who tell people they need a permit to cross the street.I'm a lawyer and I take offense to this!
I was going to change it when it crossed my mind I might offend some descent lawyers in here, but I forgot. Again, sorry for the offense. I'm still working on a prejudice I have for a few ambulance chasers and those that send them chasing.
When I had my FFL, I got an astoundingly good price on two Ruger .38 Speed-Sixes. I subsequently had a gunsmith rechamber the gun to a .357. The smith was a stickler for detail and he made sure the chambers were perfectly "drilled." As a result, they both became some of my most accurate .357s. I could take .357 125gr JHP bullets and drop one in each chamber, and they'd stick! In many .357s, it's not unusual to have several just drop through. That's just the way tolerances are. But I paid a cheap price for the guns, then paid almost nothing for the rechambering, and I ended up with two extremely accurate .357s!
This Speed-Six began life as a .38 Special. It's now a .357, and a very accurate
one at that!
That thing makes me drool.
I tried swapping my cylinder and crane from my 357 to my 38 Service Six and everything fit great, but the timing was a little off, which is understandable since they were timed for the gun they came on.
Because of the legal ramifications, the gunsmiths around here won't rechamber them anymore
.I decided to just load some hotter 38s and mark them specific for my Ruger 38 Service Six.
My 64-3/3" was built in 1980, long before the lock era, and came with factory cherry, smooth wood grips. Nice trigger and very accurate at 90 meters with handloaded Hornady 158gr lead bullets. The asking price for the Smith is too high to close the deal IMO, even for a forged wheelgun.
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