Ruger MKII with 10 inch barrel?

[Okiecruffler]

Does anyone have one of these? I was looking at one last week and I'm intrigued. I already have a Savage Stryker that shoots just fine at 100yrds and a Mitchell that takes care of anything closer, so I have no use for it. At $299 it's not really a "steal" but it's not bad. But mostly, that thing just looks cool, and with some after market grips it would look even better.

 

[toolmaker]

I have had a 10 inch stainless MK2 since about 1985 or so. I put Hogue rubber grips on it, and a Weigland no-tap scope base. Don't laugh, but mine carries a Leupold 2x-7x Rifleman rifle scope that I use to shoot 3/4 inch groups at 50 yards on a good day with standard velocity CCI ammo. I even made myself a small bipod for it so I can rest it on the bench for lazy days. The trigger overtravel has been taken out with the factory adjustment screw, and I'm toying with the idea of drilling and tapping an adjustment screw to remove most of the creep. Saw a neat article online by a man who put a bead front sight on his, a set of rubber grips and an extended magazine release. He had his bead blasted and it is a beauty let me say. It's funny, but as a kid I loved short barrels only. Now I want them either really long, or flat out snubs. Go figure.

 

[hksw]

Have one also. Very reliable (only time it choked was long ago on Remington ammo that came in milk cartons baxes). I also dialed out the overtravel on the trigger set screw as toolmaker did.

Oddly enough, I'm the opposite of toolmaker. Always liked longer barrels early on. Longer sight radius (greater accuracy) and higher velocity, what's not to like? For the past couple of years, though, I've been liking shorter but not too short (no less than 5" for .22 lr). I've lately have had a hankering for a MKII Great Eight but that dang boycott Ruger thing is getting in the way.

Where are you going to drill and tap toolmaker? At the seer? I did also grind down the hammer seer notch edge to releave some of the creep.

 

[cstuard]

I know this is a bit off subject cause mine is a Buckmark but...was looking for a Bullseye (7" barrel) and couldn't find one. Then came across this Varmint model at a gunshow and figured what the heck! So I've been shooting this 10" barrel for 4 months now and must say I enjoy it.When boating season is over in the fall I'll start being more serious about a shorter barrel but I'll never make any irreversable changes.After 2-300 rnds I usually start to think I'm tired of holding up all that weght.But then I switch to a 5" barrel .22 and immediately notice how much more the barrel flips up on each shot. Funny to think about muzzle flipup w/ a .22 isn't it? I think you should buy it. After a couple months the price won't be an issue(and it probably won't break the bank anyway) cause you'll go to the range many times before you see anyone else w/ a 10" barrel pistol. Go for it!!!

 

[Okiecruffler]

My insanity started with the stryker, then I got the contender, now I just seem to think that pistols need long barrels. AFWIW, I have a 3-9X Simmons rifle scope on my stryker. But at 3 bills, I just can't justify another 22 pistol. And I can always have a 10 inch barrel made for the mitchell for less cash.

 

[Dr.Rob]

The 10 inch bull barrel model is the "Government" model.

This is meant to be fired laying on your back with the pistol resting across your ankle. (With a short barrel you'll burn off your boot laces). I forget what this position is called, but using it you can pop bowling pins at 100 yards with ease.

The "Government Model" has a slight taper in the bull profile to save weight.

 

[Kruzr]

Where are you going to drill and tap toolmaker? At the seer? I did also grind down the hammer seer notch edge to releave some of the creep.

I think he is referring to pre-travel rather than creep. There are two places you can drill and tap and use an allen head screw to eliminate pretravel. You can drill and tap the front part of the trigger inside the grip frame and set it by trial and error. You get lots of practice detail stripping your Mark 2 this way. The other place is through the frame in front of the trigger guard with an allen head screw that contacts the front of the trigger in the frame (the fat part of the trigger.) You run the risk of ruining the frame rather than just a trigger this way but it can be adjusted without taking anything apart.

 

[Nick96]

Dr. Rob,
Did that 10" Gov. Model come with instructions as to how to lay on your back & rest the gun on your ankle? I've been trying to figure out how exactly that works. No doubt it's a position best assumed by younger & thinner folks than I. Actually I have heard of this type of laying position - just never got the details about exactly how you do it.


HE HE HE HE !!! I'm just trying to picture someone at the range I go to doing that. I can just see the rangemaster shutting down the fireing line and having an ambulance on route before figuring out that someone hadn't been shot or suffered a seizure.

 

[M16]

You guys make me jealous! I thought my 8" was "long." Oh well I guess it's not the length of your barrel it's how you use it.

 

[hksw]

Oh, I see.

Also, laying on your back for say Silhouette shooting is known as supine or Creedmore. I think, though, that Creedmore (judging by the illustrations and pictures I've seen of the early use of this position) started off as rifle using the inside of your leg but now just means supine position whether the barrel is resting inside or outside of your leg.

 

[alwims]

Here is my wife's 6" squirrel pistol and my 10" squirrel pistol.

 

[Penforhire]

Wow. My 6 7/8" Gov bull barrel is heavy enough. 10" would be too much, even with my VQ grips. I'd have to lean it on something. Does look good though.

 

[BlkHawk73]

I've got one of the P8GC's (22/45 Great Eight) and find it more accurate than I expected. Balances very nicely. I've shot the 10" but decided on the 8" just to be different. I've toyed with the idea of building up a MKII with a Pac-Lite upper in either a 10.5 or 8" bbl. The P8Gc should cost a bit less than the MKII version. I've got under $300 in mine. I've passed a few times on getting a Buckmark Silhouette but will have one sooner or later.

The new .17 MKIII will be avail in a fluted 8" configuration.

 

[Gunmeister]

ALWIMS, Please tell me who manuf's your scopes and will they mount to the Ruger OEM sight rail? Thanks , John

 

[hksw]

The new .17 MKIII will be avail in a fluted 8" configuration.

Dang, I sure hope that mag cap limit falls, easing some of my displeasure with Ruger (as a company).

The main reason I want a MII Great Eight instead of the 22/45 is that I already have plenty of mags for the KMK10 I have.

 

[alwims]

John, ( Gunmeister ), The scopes are not anything special but work great on these two fine guns. They are both Tasco 2x Pistol Scopes. I took both guns to a gunsmith and had them drilled and tapped and used Weaver rings, (sorry but can't remember what bases we used). I'm sure they will they mount to the Ruger OEM sight rail with standard rings

 

[hksw]

Had to show off my Buckmark Silhouette Unlimited.

Crappy Tasco rings but they work and allow co-witness.

 

[alwims]

hksw, that's a really cool looking Buckmark. I've found that Tasco's quality, in the last 10 years is really pretty good.

Just thought I would post this web site for mounts, from an earlier thread. http://www.solow.com/ . I wish I had known about them when I had mine Drilled and Tapped

 

[hksw]

Hmm. I'm not sure I'm using the term co-witness correctly. I meant that I can use the iron sights through the holes of the rings under the scope with the scope in place. Not use the irons looking through the scope.

 

[JMLV]

Are those grips avaiable for all

of the Buckmarks? Mine is simular to yours but the barrel is somewhat shorted just past the forend. but can I get a set of those grips for my Buckmark? they look much nicer that the ones that are on my gun.
Jim L
PS nice accurate gun mine is I don't plan to part with it ever!

 

[hksw]

If you go to Browning's site and download the exploded view and parts list, they list a Grip - Wrap Around Walnut w/Finger Grip (Note : Left and Right grip pieces are seperately listed). Although I cannot be absolutely certain these are the grips seen on the Unlimited, I'm pretty sure, but ask Browning to be sure. The part numbers are B5152861 and B5152862 - $36.50 ea.

Personally, however, I do prefer the Rosewood grips of my Buckmark Bullseye. They seem much more comfortable. Try to get ahold of one at a gun shop or show to try out. The fingergroove grips of the Limited are a tad front-back long. Notice the finger groves cover the front strap of the frame adding front-back thickness.

The Unlimited barrel is 14".

 

[JMLV]

Browning grips

Thanks I will do that. Its nice that the guns do come with such nice wood grips from the factory instead of plastic. I do like the look of my buskmark even if it can get a tad heavy on the line after 1 or 2 relays.
Jim L

 

[Kharn]

Dr. Rob:
My Government MkII is a 6 7/8" bull barrel, untapered, I believe all of the Government models have this same barrel length, while some are slabsides and/or stainless. A quick look on Ruger.com's MkII page seems to confirm this, but I could be mistaken if previous or just-released models arent listed.

Kharn

 

[Dr.Rob]

yeah I think the position is called "Creedmore."

As far as what is or isn't a Gov't model... looks like that has changed a time or two.