Ruger P90 Jam

[acer99]

I need help clearing a P90 jam. I attempted to load a new round and the slide did not go fully into battery. The pistol is jammed and will not go forward into battery and will not allow the slide to be opened to eject the LIVE Round.

What is the proper approach and/or solution.

Thanks for help

 

[GLOOB]

You need to move the slide back, but not the barrel. I imagine I'd try something like this: Take a small block of wood that fits between the muzzle and the guide rod. Tape it in place, to the slide. It needs to stick out just a fraction of an inch. Then punch the end of the gun into a wood workbench, holding it in a shooting grip. Safety on, trigger guard empty, of course. Once the slide moves a sixteenth inch or so, it will probably unstick.

I'd also be very wary of muzzle direction while doing an of this. If the slide is close to full battery (firing pin in line with primer) and your firing pin is free floating, then the round could go off. I think the P90 should be safe in this regard (firing pin safety), but I'd look it up beforehand.

If that doesn't work, you could pound on the bullet with a dowel and mallet. That would be easier on your extractor. But you really would need to know the firing pin safety is working, before attempting this. I'd only try this with heavy gloves and eye/ear protection, in a safe environment, just in case. The more I think about it, the more I'd just take it to a gunsmith before I'd go this far.

 

[fguffey]

I guess by now you are back on the road, but if it was my P 90 I would remove the magazine then from the top push the ejector down until it stayed down or reach up through the bottom (of the magazine well) with a hook and pull the ejector down until it stayed down. The slide should be free.

Just as a thought or suggestion, the slide can not be removed without pushing the ejector down (after the magazine has been removed).

F. Guffey

 

[acer99]

GLOOB -- Thank you very much for your help and solution - IT WORKED LIKE A CHARM -- Took a while to get it set up just right and find a safe place to inititate BUT the slide went back and the round came out on the first try. All was well except the extreme apprehension of what could happen if it didn't work.

Thx again acer99

 

[GLOOB]

Good. So I'm guessing it was an deformed round? What brand was it!?

 

[fguffey]

All of my jams in the P90 are between the ramp/chamber and magazine (next round), when I remove the magazine the deformed?? round falls out, hammering on something never occurred to me, as to deformed, I have a P90 DC that likes new, store bought, over the counter, commercial ammo, when reloading for it there is no such thing as a reliable round. It has been suggested I sent it back to Ruger with no promise the pistol will maintain accuracy so when I reload for this pistol I make the ammo match the dimensions of new commercial ammo.

I have had other reloaders offer to load for the Ruger, I took them up on the offer, their reloads worked flawlessly through 5 45s and jammed in my P 90, I left the range, worked on the reloads and returned, then all of his reloads flew through the Ruger.

F. Guffey

 

[Yarddog]

I NEVER had a jam in any of my P series Rugers & Reload for all ; ) PS Glad you got it squared Away
Y/D

 

[GLOOB]

Guys, relax. The jam he's describing happens when a round is defective, making it too large to chamber. I've had this happen before, where a factory round had a small section of the mouth folded over. I didn't notice while loading it into the magazine, and it jammed mid-magazine, just like the OP described. It gets in there so tight, the action won't easily open nor fully close.

This jam has nothing to do with the model of gun.

This is why it's a good idea to chamber check your SD or match ammo.

 

[fguffey]

As a matter of sequence as in steps I remove the magazine first and it is a a mistake to assume you know what the problem is without having seen the pistol and it's unique jam. At the range a pistol jammed, the shooter pulled his slide back and cleared the case THEN tried his best to close the slide THEN ask me what I thought it was, and I said "I do not know" he handed me his pistol, I removed the magazine and checked the barrel, there it was a bullet setting in the barrel about as far as the primer could drive it, I drove the bullet out with a wood dowel. He was a reloader that had no ideal weight the loaded round should weigh because he did not weigh the components meaning he did not know if he had powder in each case or if he had a double charge or the perfect charge. I offered to loan him a set of scales until he decided what color he preferred, then he informed me he had a scale for reloading but did not think it would distinguish the difference between rounds loaded with 5 grains of powder and rounds loaded without powder, and again I offered to loan him a set of scales that works until he found a set...that worked.

F. Guffey

And I make no apology for making an attempt to offer help, on my part it would be a mistake to assume the OP knew how to remove the slide, I could have wasted his time, that is OK, but on the outside chance there is someone out there reading this thread that did not know how to set up the slide for removal, I do not place an inflated value on my contribution, if my input does not help the OP, or if he has his 'go to people' consider you are not the only person the topic applies to.