Ruger Shortage ???

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I've been trying to find a Ruger SP101 2.25' bbl .357 magnum for months now. No one in my area seems to have any. Sports South is also out of stock. I remember reading somewhere that Ruger is discontinuing the SP101. Is anybody else having this problem of finding a certain handgun ? This isn't the only handgun model that seems to be a no show this year.
 
I have experienced a Ruger shortage ever since I acquired my first one, and it persists no matter how many Rugers I manage to gather.
 
They must have been using resources on the SR9 and LCP recalls plus the new poly frame revolver. Seems like several models are slow coming out of the factory.
 
Wanna talk shortage, try getting an LCP right now. :rolleyes: Kel Tec P3ATs are sold out, too. Huge demand for small .380s for some reason. Even .380 ammo is hard to come by. That's sorta weird, don't quite understand the paranoia there unless people are thinking that small guns are going to be banned or something.

I've seen SP101s around as well as other revolvers. LCP production shouldn't affect SP101 production. I don't even know if they're made in the same factory. And, the shortage doesn't seem to have anything to do with recalls, more to do with politics. Why else can you explain the complete lack of factory .380 ammo anywhere to be found? Fortunately, if I wanna shoot .380, I roll my own.
 
Oh, I really don't think they'll discontinue the SP101. They just came out with the .327 a year or two ago and what would replace it? It is a good seller. The LCR won't be a .357 magnum, not strong enough, can't fill that niche. They did discontinue the .22 caliber SP101, maybe what you heard.
 
One of my local shops has two 2 1/4" DAO magnum SP101s for $440 each NIB. Another shop I frequent in Raleigh has a couple also, for about $425 NIB IIRC.
 
Seems almost all guns are hard to find right now thanks to president hussein. Ruger is not going to stop selling the SP101 anytime soon, those things are a gold mine for them.
 
Ruger builds revolvers in runs & sometimes ,which is most of the time the run falls short of demand.
Intentially???????
i doubt it but sure would hate to have big $$$$$ just lying around too.


GP100man
 
Ruger manufacturing...

It is always tough to forecast what the demand will be for a product; it is a lot cheaper for Ruger to make product as the distributors run low on their inventory. Ruger just adopted this new strategy last year. The 2008 catalog had a section that explained their new approach to business.

In the last year, Ruger had their fair share of problems with the SR9 and LCP. A lot of attention has been placed on fixing these problems. They were more concerned with fixing existing problems than filling the demand for certain products. I'm sure that things will pick up in the next few months (provided that the LCR is a decent gun).
 
i did see that in the catalog . forgotten all about it !!
i agree Fishman777.
when they turn there attention back to supply the demands things will pick up .

GP100man
 
Indeed. And if the LCR is a decent gun, I plan to get one for my mother to replace an ancient S&W Airweight, which most certainly is NOT a decent gun. Yet some people are willing to pay $300 for a Model 38 Bodyguard, which incidentally will go a long way to purchasing a new LCR. I'll be glad to be rid of that little piece of trash that bites your hand when you shoot, and would undoubtedly blow up if we accidentally put +P ammo in it.
 
Keep in mind that all Ruger pistols, save the Charger, are made at their plant in Arizona. All revolvers, rifles (save the old PC9 and PC40), and the Charger pistol are made at their plant in New England. I believe the LCR will also be a Prescott, AZ built gun.
 
I'll be glad to be rid of that little piece of trash that bites your hand when you shoot, and would undoubtedly blow up if we accidentally put +P ammo in it.
It won't blow up. However, continued use of +P ammo will stretch the frame. If the little M38 is biting your hand you should try a different set of grips.

Also, Ruger had to cut some really deep flutes in the cylinder of the LCR to get the weight down to 13.5 ounces. S&W did a limited run of the Scandium frame / steel cylinder model 360 in .38 Special. These guns sell on the street for less than the MSRP of an LCR, you can get them now, the cylinder doesn't have excessively deep fluting, they have a metal frame, and (at 13.3 ounces) they still weigh less than the LCR.
 
They may be "busy" and "working on a new run" but right now I see some really stupid business practices from Ruger. Nearly everything they make is sold out, Davidson's doesn't even have a single GP100 or SP101 in any size. That is their bread and butter. They're waving a pretty big middle finger at the mjority of their market if they don't spit some of those out soon.
 
I'm *guessing* that the rear of the cylinder is the most important part, because that is where the primers ignite. I agree that the LCR cylinders look a little anemic, in the front.

I think that Ruger was primarily interested in making a pocket revolver that was comfortable to shoot. From what I've heard, the grip design and the polymer grip frame make these guns pretty comfortable to shoot. My guess is that the LCR will be a much more comfortable gun to shoot than the 360.

I think that Ruger makes very good rimfire pistols and excellent DA and SA revolvers. I hope that they knew what they were doing with the skinny cylinder. The last thing that Ruger needs is a recall on the LCRs.
 
BigBlock, most Rugers are on allocation to dealers right now. Ruger isn't giving anyone the finger; they simply can't keep up with demand in the current. Most companies keep up either. None of them are going to expand for a bubble that could be instantly burst with one piece of legislation.
 
Well, that is how business works...if you can't sell your product...then you are no longer a business. Ruger currently has almost no products to sell. You'd think they would have revved up the production so they'd have plenty to sell right after the SHOT show.

I am a die hard Ruger fan, but I don't like anything they've done since the last Ruger left the business.
 
This will probably sound like I am making excuses for Ruger... Oh well. The more that I think about it, the more that it seems to me that this might not be entirely Ruger's fault.

The 2008 Ruger catalog also mentioned that they also implemented "just in time" manufacturing. These "lean production" approaches only work if your suppliers are able to keep up their end. In lean production, you basically don't keep an inventory of parts; you rely on your suppliers to provide you with what you need, just in time for your manufacturing run. The bottom line is that this approach only works if the company's suppliers can keep up with your needs. Any delays or backorders will prevent you from making your product in a timely fashion.

The benefit that you can gain from this approach is that it reduces your inventory and provides you with significant cost savings. I'm very familiar with "lean" production, but I have no first-hand experience with it. I work in a completely different industry, but I've seen long manufacturing delays because our suppliers could not hold up their end. I've seen backorders that have lasted months (and I've never worked for a company that used this approach).

I don't know for sure that this is what is happening, but this is usually the biggest problem/hurdle that companies deal with when they convert to "lean" production approaches. It makes sense that some of Ruger's inventory issues might be related to issues with their suppliers. I'm sure that the LCP, SR9, and the LCR contributed to the delays, as well.
 
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I went back to the shop to pick up the GP100 and it was gone, along with every other Ruger. Then I went online and can't find one either. What the heck is going on, are they trying to create an artificial demand?
 
I've been trying to find a Ruger SP101 2.25' bbl .357 magnum for months now. No one in my area seems to have any. Sports South is also out of stock. I remember reading somewhere that Ruger is discontinuing the SP101. Is anybody else having this problem of finding a certain handgun ? This isn't the only handgun model that seems to be a no show this year.

I'm having a very similar problem. But I'm finding plenty in my area that are the 2 1/4" barrel. There's one at a local gun show LNIB condition for $414.

What I'm having a hard time finding are the 3 1/16" ones. Now those are really really hard to find in my area. I can find them on GunBroker, but I'd rather buy a used for a used price....not a used one for NIB price! :cuss:
 
Just an update, wasted my lunch calling all the shops within an hour drive and finally found exactly what I was looking for (4" stainless Ruger GP100) and ran over there to pick it up. Just got it home, haven't been to the range yet, but upon inspection it's just perfect in every possible way (although the DA pull needs a little work), and I can see this becoming my new favorite.
 
Many of the carry weapons are difficult to find at shops. I still haven't seen a SP101 in 327. LCP's are tough to find, not that I'm looking hard.
 
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