Ruger SP-101....327 Federal or 357 mag?

[ashtxsniper]

I will keep my 357 SP101 since it as the 327 trumped without a doubt.

 

[ice monkey]

The 327 is from a 3" - don't know what the .357's from:

327 85 grain Hydra-Shot JHP - MV 1330 fps, ME 334 ft. lbs.
357 80 " safety - MV 1418 fps, ME 357 ft. lbs.

327 100 grain SP - MV 1400 fps, ME 435 ft. lbs.
357 100 " PB - MV 1300 fps, ME 376 ft. lbs.

327 115 grain Gold Dot JHP - MV 1300 fps, ME 431 ft. lbs.
357 110 " JHP - MV 1233 " " 372 " " .
357 110 " JHP - MV 1094 " " 292 " " .

327 Looks good on paper - if it does kick 20% less as they claim, well that's considerable. Like I said before, it looks like it will be FUN to shoot.

 

[big44]

I'd still have to go with the .357 magnum round, at least until I saw what the availabilty of the .327 would be.

 

[Virginian]

There ain't no free lunch. ME out the front is going to equal recoil at the rear. Simple physics. Now I am sure a 100 gr. 327 is going to kick less than a 170 gr stepping out of a 357, but the results of those two on the terminal end is going to be quite different as well. If I am a snob, let it be because I really prefer, and carry, a 44 Spl. I couldn't find a baseball bat that would group worth a hoot past 1-1/2 yards.

 

[philbo]

I'd still have to go with the .357 magnum round, at least until I saw what the availability of the .327 would be.

What he said. I wouldn't doubt the capability of the 327, but the price of ammo is going to make adequate practice more difficult as well.

 

[doc2rn]

I brought this up a couple of days ago. I cant understand why anyone would want to invest in a caliber made by only one manufacturer. My .32 H&R Sp 101 was a similar idea, and finding ammo is hard enough to come by when it only comes in boxes of 20 and in small supply.
The new Sp is supposed to be able to fire .32 S&W, .32 H&R, and .327 Fed. but I dont see the point. Ammo will be cost prohibitive and it will die just as readily as my .32 H&R did. I really like .32s but I dont see the point of buying another weapon with a limited supply of ammo.

 

[rcmodel]

The 327 operates at 45,000 psi, per the article sheriff Jim Wilson wrote in shooting times, Febuary 2008. The 357 operates around 35,000 psi, I believe.

If this is true, you won't know the true meaning of loud until you shoot a .327 Mag the first time!

The two worst offenders I have ever fired are the .30 Carbine Blackhawk, and any 32-20 WCF chambered revolver with hot loads.

Either one will make your ears bleed, and I can think of no reason the .327 will be any different if loaded to 45,000 PSI out of a 3 1/16" barrel SP101.

rcmodel

 

[MrBorland]

If this is true, you won't know the true meaning of loud until you shoot a .327 Mag the first time!

Yeah, I brought up the issue of pressure earlier (post #6) and said my concern would be that the round would be "snappy"; poor choice of words on my part, since I was referring to sound. I'm glad rcmodel brought it up. I also suspect it'll really be LOUD with a terrific muzzle blast. People often mention the disorienting effect of the noise and muzzle blast of a .357 magnum; even if the recoil of the .327magnum is lighter, the disorienting effect may be even greater. I think the round has a lot of merit, but I'd like to shoot one first. I suspect we'll soon be seeing some "Lordy-that-.327-is-loud!!" threads.

 

[don95sml]

GunNut said:

now if S&W were to make the 340PD in .327 Federal we may have a winner.

Seems to me, this is a key point. If Smith & Wesson jumps on the bandwagon, this thing could fly. But if not, I don't see that the .327 is going to be any more successful than previous attempts to gain popularity for a .32 caliber cartridge.

 

[lanternlad1]

How much is ammo running?

 

[seeker_two]

I'll consider it a "made" cartridge when Ruger makes a Single-Six and Marlin & Henry make lever-action rifles for it.....

 

[L-Frame]

I think that it does sound intriguing, having 6 rounds in a nice package like the 101. I find that to be the big selling point for me. As far as effectiveness is concerned, I'll stack up my Buffalo Bore 158 +P's with any of the 327 rounds and feel perfectly comfortable.

My big problem with it is it's too new, ammo too limited and EXPENSIVE, and no one is sure how it's going to do in the long term. I don't want to buy a gun and end up with another 41 AE on my hands (nice guns with no ammo to shoot out of them)

 

[Seafarer12]

If someone would make a 327 in a levergun and someone made them in a single action. I would have to buy both. Same power as hot 32-20 with the ability to shoot 32 H&R along with 32 long and easier to reload. I am sold. There was a writeup on gunblast about them and he was getting some pretty high numbers out of a 3 inch barrel. 1375 from the american eagle 100 grain soft points. 1740 fps with a 60 grain xtp handload, 1250 with a 135 grain cast lead handload. No signs of high pressure were seen but he had no way of measuring it. If he can get a 135 grain pill going to 1250 out of 3 inches I am curious what it would get to in 20.

 

[craig_o]

the only thing that I like about the 327 is the you get an extra shot. otherwise, I'd rather have the .38/.357

 

[Six O'clock Tactical]

Personally id stick with 357... pretty much all the reasons everyone else said so.