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Both work for me. No particular brand preference, just whichever model suits a particular want.
Yup. Have both and that above is spot on. Both do the job they were designed to do perfectly. Smith&Wessons (preMIM/lock) are thoroughbreds and Rugers are workhorses.If they were cars, Smith would be like the Ferrari and Ruger would be like a sturdy old Ford pickup truck.
what is investment cast vs forged?
Looks like everyone recently ignored this question. For a detailed answer, you can google it or use Wikipedia - level answer, but I'll just gun-deck it for you: Very loosely, it's the difference between carving something from a solid rock (forged) or liquefying the rock and pouring it into a mold, like concrete (cast). Now, cast vs. forged steel are closer in actual strength than solid rock and concrete (hard rock, let's say!). But the analogy is valid.
I recently ran across a gif of this famous ad S&W ran in the 80s when Ruger started to say that because their guns were larger, they were stronger. S&W even went to print to challenge that. I understand Ruger never brought it up again...
MCGunner said:Rugers ARE stronger guns, like it or not.
I, and most of us, would just like some PROOF instead of people just asserting it. Sure, there are random observations of one or another having a problem, but no one can point to any sample testing that in any way can say one is stronger than the other. What is a FACT is that one is made with stronger steel (but less of it) and one is made with weaker steel (but more of it). There are four variables in that equation to solve for before anyone can made an assertion.
I, and most of us, would just like some PROOF instead of people just asserting it. Sure, there are random observations of one or another having a problem, but no one can point to any sample testing that in any way can say one is stronger than the other. What is a FACT is that one is made with stronger steel (but less of it) and one is made with weaker steel (but more of it). There are four variables in that equation to solve for before anyone can made an assertion.
I, and most of us, would just like some PROOF instead of people just asserting it. Sure, there are random observations of one or another having a problem, but no one can point to any sample testing that in any way can say one is stronger than the other. What is a FACT is that one is made with stronger steel (but less of it) and one is made with weaker steel (but more of it). There are four variables in that equation to solve for before anyone can made an assertion.
Buy one and use it heavily with heavy loads
I have read in more than one place that S&W petitioned SAMII to lower the pressure std on the .357 rounds so that the S&W's wouldn't stretch so badly with full house ammo.