Ruger's 10/22 ??

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hi, i read a gun article a few years ago on a ruger 10/22 in 22 magnum. the guy said he could not get through a whole mag without a jam:what: i have two ruger autos that are totally reliable. i figure it was just a fluke, but i have no hands on experience and was wondering if anybody had(or have shot) one and if it was reliable?
thanks for any info:)
 
Prior to converting my 10/22M (.22 mag) to .17HMR, I haven't really had any problems with the gun function wise.

When I converted, I did get quite a few stovepipes in the first 100 rounds but attributed it to a still relatively new gun (noe more than 200 rounds of .22 mag fired through it previously). I also encountered rounds hanging up in the stock mag I was using. I had talked to a fellow shooter a couple of weeks before and he mentioned and showed me the same hang-ups with his 77/22 mags (same mag as the 10/22M). What I found as the cause for the problem was the mag bolt torqued just a bit too tight and so the interior length of the mag was justa tad tight for the overall length of the .17 binding the rounds inside. I loosened the mag about 1/8 turn of a hex wrench and everything went fine from there on. (Actually loosened a bit too much the first time around and the mag got stuck in the mag well. Had to disassemblt the gun to get it out. No biggy, the 10/22 is easy to take down.)

Bought 4 assitional mags from CDNN and they have worked fine out of the blisterpack without mods.

My regular 10/22s (.22 lr) have worked fine. The only ammo that doesn't work in any of the ones I've convereted with bull barrels is Rem Thunderbolt. Those things only chamber in the stock barrel which aren't as tight as the aftermarket barrels.
 
My 10/22 (Stainless/Synthetic .22LR) was pretty finicky the first 200 rounds, but has been fine since. Most of the few failures I've had since breaking the rifle in have usually involved worn out Ruger BX-1 10-rd factory mags, where the spring is either so worn-out or gummed up that it fails to feed the 3rd or 4th round in the mag. I probably would have considered my 10/22 a "jammer" if I wasn't aware of the need - seemingly especially for 10/22 - for them to break in after a couple hundred rounds.

My 10/22 is hardly a match rifle, but it sure is dependable and just plain fun to shoot.
 
Oftentimes, the mags get dirty/dry and the rounds stick inside. I lube mine a little and stone the lips to remove any nicks/burrs. This is .22LR, not .22WMR.
 
I'm always fascinated to hear stories about unreliable 22's. 95% of the time it is a problem with the gun and 80% of the time that problem is that they have NEVER cleaned the gun. Shoot 1,000 rounds through a 22 and you're bound to have a jamomatic! My 10/22's have been reliable save for a few ammo related hitches. ALL 22's are ammo sensative. There is almost no way you can get an autoloader to shoot all rimfire ammo all the time. Sure it happens, but it's rare. It's a 22 after all. If you're using it to shoot matches, find a load that works well and stick with it.
 
thanks for all the replys. i sure plan to make it my next 22 rifle(if i don't change my mind;) ) i have a 22/45 ruger pistol and it will feed anything but winchester x point the cheap 500 pack for $7 and it will have a occasion jam after 500 rounds of any lead ammo but can't complain with that.:)
on thing about the 10/22 there's alot of add on's to put on it
 
When my son's was stock, it would shoot the Rem bulk ammo all day without a jam. Tried the Federal bulk and had lots of jams. You just need to feed it what it like to eat. Also drop in a VQ extractor and you are good to go. You are correct about the add on's, but it can get a little spendy.
 
The secret is getting the gunk out of the little area inbetween the extractor and the bolt.. If you use a VERY WET QTip and /or some aresal can spray and really get that area clean, then most of the stove tops go away.. That's what I've found, but YMMV.
 
my bone stock 10/22 has been 99.9999% reliable through 5000 rounds.

the only time it gave me any trouble was towards the end of a long plinking session (~500 rds fired) using cheapie bulk ammo, in the last few mags I had occasional feeding problems because of all the gunk built up in the action.
 
I'd estimate that 99% of 10/22 jams are magazine or cleanliness related. If the jam is a failure-to-feed, it's probably a mag. If it's a failure-to-eject, it probably needs a little gunk removal.
 
My friend complained that his 10/22 was a piece of junk. It jammed with virtually every shot and I watched him as he struggled along with it. Mine purred along nicely and ate up 8k rounds that day (I had two buddies loading those 30 round Ramlines with loader device).

Well, I took his 10/22 home to look at it. It was jamming because in the 10 years that he's owned it, he never cleaned it. Detail take down & cleaning and it's good as new.
 
also be aware with regards to stovepipes in the 10/22, that the magazine also serves as the Primary ejector (that "step" in the upper feed lip is the REAL ejector) the little stamped steel piece that sticks out of the front of the trigger group is a backup and also there to allow the gun to be fired single shot with the mag out.

so problems with ejection of spent cases should ALSO cause one to take a look at the interaction of the bolt with the magazine (lips) just like feeding trouble.

the above info, is a paraphrase of info passed on to me by one of the " 10/22 gurus" at RFC (ChiefDave probably has more 10/22s in his safe than all the guns i've ever picked up to shoot, look at, or fondle combined) when i started having trouble with stovepipes and a number of other fuction problems, in the 30+ year old 10/22 my dad gave me (gun i learned to shoot with at age 11). in my case it turned out to be that my father had NOT be cleaning or lubing the gun even to the minimal extent that a 10/22 requires :rolleyes:
 
What is a "stove pipe"?

Spent case not fully ejected caught between the breech and bolt with the opening of the empty case sticking out of the ejection port. Looks like the exhaust of a wood burning stove pipe only smaller, of course.

Generally, though, the term is use for any spent case that doesn't fully eject. Doesn't have to be in the exact position mentioned. The next live round may or may not be on its way to the chamber when the jam occurs. Could also be called, 'Failure To Eject', aka FTE (an acronym which could also be used for, 'Failure To Extract')
 
I am sooo stupid.:banghead: :banghead:
I never thought about taking the mags apart to clean them. Took all the dysfunctional mags apart and cleaned them. They are now back to 100%. Thanks hksw. Now I'm going to go lick a light socket or something else real stupid:scrutiny:
 
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