Rule #4

[crazydaysorg]

Here is a situation where Rule #4 was violated and the bullets passed through the intended target and also struck the woman being choked by the attacker.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/to...t-of-self-defense/vTzBEjb3L0KgxjV0gLl9PQ.cspx

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50895646-76/sharp-pursel-police-whinham.html.csp

The 17 year old girl could have changed angles and risk being seen or having the attacker's attention changed to her and allowed additional time of the choking on the victim. The 17 year old could have tried to physically attack the attacker, but against a 37 year old male she'd likely have just been pushed away and had the gun taken from her and it could have gone down hill very quickly from there.

What would be the proper tactic to use in this situation? Is risking over penetration worth the risk in a situation like this?

 

[9mmepiphany]

When the attack continued, the girl grabbed a gun. She fatally shot Sharp as he lunged for her

You don't always have too many options when someone is lunging at you, depending on the distance between you. When you have the wherewithal to change your shooting angle, that might be a consideration, but I don't think it would be at the top priority at the moment

 

[crazydaysorg]

What sort of liability would a defending shooter have for hitting another person because of over penetration? I would assume in a true defense situation the defender would not be charged for hitting the bad guy.

Also, in this instance in particular, does it make sense for the 17 year old girl to have called attention to herself? Or should she have shot the man attacking the other woman without notice?

 

[mcdonl]

I know logic and the law are not bed mates, but it seems to me that if someone is justified to shoot in self defense, the person who caused the whole situation is responsible for any negative outcome.

I know this is probably not the case, but it would make sense.

 

[bigfatdave]

What sort of liability would a defending shooter have for hitting another person because of over penetration? I would assume in a true defense situation the defender would not be charged for hitting the bad guy.

In many states the felon is liable for anything that happens during their felony, I don't remember the legal term for it but it offhand.

Also, in this instance in particular, does it make sense for the 17 year old girl to have called attention to herself? Or should she have shot the man attacking the other woman without notice?

Damned if I know, I'd have to make too many assumptions before forming a worthless opinion, I wasn't there so my best guess on the actual events or layout is just a W.A.G.

What would be the proper tactic to use in this situation? Is risking over penetration worth the risk in a situation like this?

For the record, I'd rather not have bits of some scumburger implanted in me with a lead/flesh transfer ... but I dislike being choked as well.
If I were on either side of the defense (choked or shooting) I'd be making every effort to give/get a clear shot for the shooter that didn't intersect me ... when you think about the immobility of someone seriously choking someone else, it might be possible to maneuver to a spot where you can put your pill in from the side, but could you count on it? Again, damned if I know, the layout and order of events is a mystery.

 

[bigfatdave]

Roy • Family members of John Sharp say they realized there was no changing his mind Thursday after they bailed him out of the Weber County Jail.

The asshats who bailed out this scumbag should be help liable, as well as the judge who allowed bail. That goes double if the scumwad has a record.

 

[Shadow 7D]

well if you saved thier life, you would hope they would be grateful enough to just stick you with the hosptial bill

if not, then the closing statement would be 'I guess I should have waited till you were dead'

 

[scaatylobo]

NYS

In this state you the shooter are THE one responsible for shots fired by you.

That being said,I do not for a moment believe I have seen a case of procescution for aforementioned shooting.

But if you can ever envision such a scenerio - then envision an answer.

Same as if you were in a mall or ANYPLACE where there are innocent bystanders,I for one could not bear the thought of taking an innocent life for any reason.

So the technique I have practiced [ been a while since I have ] was to drop to the ground on my knees and direct fire to the upper chest and head of the perp.

Gives you more target area and less chance to hit those behind the perp.

Any other idea's ??.