Rules about capping cylinders ???

[Das Jaeger]

BC

200 fps can't be right ? I am thinking they are stating that the bullet is producing 200 FPE , not FPS , which is just about correct for the .44 loading with a good load in a BP revolver
Don't believe everything you read BC , especially my dribble

Jaeger

 

[BHP FAN]

I swore I wasn't going to comment,but there are some guns that you can't cap with the cylinder in the frame...the .22 ''Magnum'' Companion comes to mind.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

I understand that if your competing against cartridge guns. They should not call it a safety rule.

But it IS for safety. It is designed to prevent a person from having a hammer resting on a live round in case it is dropped when holstering from the loading bench, or when the handgun in drawn. Sure, most of the modern repros don't use a fixed firing pin, but the conversion cylinders as well as cap-n-ball revolvers do have that potential, and it may also be a throwback to the days when SAA's were state-of-the-art handguns.

As for the range rules and safety, you can tell from the account that each person had different ideas, so didn't know what was or was not safen according to the rules. One fellow objected to pre-capped cylinders, and another to the amount of powder in the loads (based on noise I suppose), but isn't the greatest risk from an errant spark touching off one or more of the pre-loaded chambers resting on the bench? Did anybody tell the guy to only load the chambers while on the line, then cap, then fire? Shouldn't they all have said that? Sounded like personally appointed experts chiming in one at a time to me.

LD

 

[madcratebuilder]

Quote:
I understand that if your competing against cartridge guns. They should not call it a safety rule.
But it IS for safety. It is designed to prevent a person from having a hammer resting on a live round in case it is dropped when holstering from the loading bench, or when the handgun in drawn. Sure, most of the modern repros don't use a fixed firing pin, but the conversion cylinders as well as cap-n-ball revolvers do have that potential, and it may also be a throwback to the days when SAA's were state-of-the-art handguns.

Most cap and ball revolver have a safety notch between cylinders that captures the hammer. I do agree you should not have the hammer on a loaded chamber, c&b or cartridge.

 

[wittzo]

I've been curious about this as long as I've had my pistol. I've been thinking of putting a cylinder in a vise and putting a fuse (or a rocket igniter) down the flashhole of a loaded chamber to see what would happen.(Outside, of course)

I guess it could be expanded upon by putting a cylinder face down on a 2X4 and doing the same thing and see where it lands, see if it penetrates the wood and what not..But my cylinders are brand new still and I don't want to scuff them up.

If a capped cylinder hits a flat surface, the cap will probably not go off, but if you're at a range, the cylinder might land on a pebble or something else that can contact the cap.

My caps don't fire because I'm not seating them tight enough or my "competition" mainspring is too weak, but with my luck, if I dropped a capped cylinder, it would set off every one of the cylinders.

The best advice? Don't drop it.

I shoot in my backyard, I cap the cylinders and then put them in pouches on my belt and swap them out on my firing line with the muzzle pointed downrange. I live on a XXXX acre plot, there's nothing but soybeans and trees in danger down yonder. I don't store them capped.

I can't believe that someone had the gall to critique his "hot loads". That's downright rude. I hope that guy liked his choice of lube, balls, wads, and powder, if not, I'm sure he would have heard about it, too.

 

[arcticap]

By the way, I've seen the claim that a ball out of a cylinder would be doing something like 200 fps.

200 fps can't be right ? I am thinking they are stating that the bullet is producing 200 FPE , not FPS , which is just about correct for the .44 loading with a good load in a BP revolver
Don't believe everything you read BC , especially my dribble

I saw one of those reports and fps (feet per second) is correct. It pertains to chainfires and how much velocity is generated from the ball shooting out of the cylinder only.
It was shown how the ball doesn't have nearly as much velocity as a normally fired round would and therefore relatively little power to penetrate.

 

[whosyrdaddy]

Arcticap is right about that test. I remember seeing it posted on another forum a few years ago. The guy used a fuse to fire off the cylinders adjacent to battery and recorded the speed and penetration of cardboard. IIRC, he determined that, although less than lethal, you didn't want to be in front of one that went off.

 

[BHP FAN]

so ''pepper boxes'' weren't lethal?I think a Walker Cylinder,loaded with say,40gr. of three f Goex would have about an inch of ''barrel'' [actually chamber] to build up speed in.If you were to make an Apache Fist Pistol out of a Walker,I sure wouldn't stand in front of it.
Wittzo was right...don't drop it.Even so,I bet out of a hundred dropped cylinders you might only get one or two to go off.Hardly ''a bomb''. Maybe we should contact ''Mythbusters''?

 

[Carl N. Brown]

5 or 6 depends on the type of shooting you are doing

CAS Cowboy Action Shooting is not like target shooting from a fixed station where the loaded gun will always be pointed down range, so it is understandable that moving about with a single action revolver you would want the hammer down on an unloaded chamber.

 

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

I alway's carry 6, and I alway's roll in loaded and capped cylinders with my '58's to. Just need to get the routine down. I'vd never had a charge fire while rolling in and pinning a cylinder and God know's I'vd rolled in and pinned enough of them in my life and it dosen't take me long to do it either....Anyone who can't carry 6 live charges in a 6 shot revolver without having an unwanted discharge dosen't belong within 40 feet of the damn gun anyway....

 

[BHP FAN]

Especially with a Remington, which has safety notches for just that very reason.