Dave Markowitz
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I am so glad I don't live in [strike]Deutschland[/strike] California.
Run in with BLM Ranger
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Standing Wolf
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I'm sure I'll always miss the temperate climate and beaches.
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Why is a BLM guy checking your guns?
Because rangers on BLM land are considered LEO's. It's their job to check for firearms violations.
Every encounter i've ever had with a ranger on BLM land has been positive.
Last August me and a couple other guys (a total of 3 jeeps) were doing a little offroading on BLM land up in the Sierra's. One of the guys (Martin) rolled his jeep 2 3/4 times. He didn't have any visual injuries but was complaining of severe abdominal pain. The rangers, a sheriff's deputy and CHP all showed up. The deputy wrote up his report and left. The rangers took Martin out to the trail head (about 5 miles) so he could be flown out. The deputy wrote up his report and left. One of the rangers asked the CHP if he would like for him to write up the report. "I have to write up one anyway. No use in both of us having to do all that paper work". The CHP said sure and left.
After the CHP left the ranger told us the reason he offered to write it up was because if he wrote it up it wouldn't be reported to the DMV and it wouldn't show up on his driving record. Seems any wrecks that happen on BLM land aren't reported to the DMV if there wrote up by a ranger and not the CHP.
They helped us recover the jeep, towed it out to the trail head with their jeep and stayed untill the tow truck showed up. They were really concerned about getting the jeep out before dark. Not because they didn't want to be there untill after dark, but so that the jeep wouldn't get stripped during the night. They didn't have to help us recover the jeep. They did it just because it was the right thing to do.
Did i mention the guns? Martin had a Ruger GP100,unloaded, in a locked case which was sitting on the hood of my jeep. I had a Glock 17 and a Springfield XD, both unloaded in a locked case. Laying on the back seat was a cased, unloaded M1 Garand. My other buddy had an unloaded, uncased M1 Garande and an 8mm Mauser laying on the back seat of his jeep. The guns were seen by all and no one said a word. I had noticed the ranger was carrying a Glock . I asked him how he liked the Glock. We had a good conversation about Glocks and guns in general.
M-Rex,
Good post.
Why is a BLM guy checking your guns?
Because rangers on BLM land are considered LEO's. It's their job to check for firearms violations.
Every encounter i've ever had with a ranger on BLM land has been positive.
Last August me and a couple other guys (a total of 3 jeeps) were doing a little offroading on BLM land up in the Sierra's. One of the guys (Martin) rolled his jeep 2 3/4 times. He didn't have any visual injuries but was complaining of severe abdominal pain. The rangers, a sheriff's deputy and CHP all showed up. The deputy wrote up his report and left. The rangers took Martin out to the trail head (about 5 miles) so he could be flown out. The deputy wrote up his report and left. One of the rangers asked the CHP if he would like for him to write up the report. "I have to write up one anyway. No use in both of us having to do all that paper work". The CHP said sure and left.
After the CHP left the ranger told us the reason he offered to write it up was because if he wrote it up it wouldn't be reported to the DMV and it wouldn't show up on his driving record. Seems any wrecks that happen on BLM land aren't reported to the DMV if there wrote up by a ranger and not the CHP.
They helped us recover the jeep, towed it out to the trail head with their jeep and stayed untill the tow truck showed up. They were really concerned about getting the jeep out before dark. Not because they didn't want to be there untill after dark, but so that the jeep wouldn't get stripped during the night. They didn't have to help us recover the jeep. They did it just because it was the right thing to do.
Did i mention the guns? Martin had a Ruger GP100,unloaded, in a locked case which was sitting on the hood of my jeep. I had a Glock 17 and a Springfield XD, both unloaded in a locked case. Laying on the back seat was a cased, unloaded M1 Garand. My other buddy had an unloaded, uncased M1 Garande and an 8mm Mauser laying on the back seat of his jeep. The guns were seen by all and no one said a word. I had noticed the ranger was carrying a Glock . I asked him how he liked the Glock. We had a good conversation about Glocks and guns in general.
M-Rex,
Good post.
That's the Ferret.
Then there's the 5 Ton
And the Dingo
A Friend of mine and I have another WWII vehicle as a joint restoration project. It's in the UK, in pieces right now (engine & tranny rebuilt)and the hull is getting bead blasted. The sheet metal was all rotten. We hope for it to look like this in a few years.
Yes, we want an operational M6 37mm cannon....Its on the long list. The short list is getting it running and in the US. Then we get all the bits. We'll probably have a dummy barrel for some time until we can get a 37mm barrel and the dummy breach. The BESA will probably end up being a gas gun. I don't know of anyone in the US that has a functional BESA. Of course I have two gas cut BESA HMGs. Every time I see them I want to cry.
GoRon
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Wow, that is some cool stuff.
And I thought my shooting hobby was expensive! LoL
And I thought my shooting hobby was expensive! LoL
Two years ago, I had a quiet conversation with a Dekalb (county that Decatur is the Seat for) officer that was doing side work at a local Home Despot. I had parked, gone inside to shop leaving the ferret to gather gawkers like a dead cow gathers flies. I come out and the cop is standing on the curb gawking as much as he can from his assigned area. I walk up calmly and ask what he thinks. He looks at me sideways and says,
"I'm trying to figure out if we have anything that could take it out...I'm in SWAT"
"Got any Light 50's in the department?"
"Nope."
"then you guys are outta luck. It'll stop up to .50 ball from the front, and 7.62 from the side. 50 AP will go through front to back though, but you can't fire slap outta a light 50 what with the muzzle brake and all."
"would smoke work?"
"Not really, the engine draws air in from the crew area, both for the air intake and for the radiator, so it'll clear the crew compartment pretty quick. You'd have to get the smoke in anyhow, you could sit the smoke bomb on the side and let it filter in, but that'd hardly be effective. wanna take a look inside of it?"
"Sure!"
He of course observed that it smelled perfectly like the tanks he served in in the Army. "Gear oil, oil, fuel, and dirt!"
I like having parity with the local PD. They're real polite like. Though in all fairness, they generally are.
Of course he took his own opportunity to joke with his supervisor who drove by to say "Hi". "Hey LT, there's a suspicious vehicle in the parking lot over there...."
He of course complained about all the people that kept asking him if it was legal or not. Sheep...blasted sheep everywhere.
GoRon, yep. I could have all sorts of class III toys if I didn't have all my money sunk into armor. Given how pricy gas is, I'm not sure which would be more expensive to feed.... Sometimes I wonder. But, hey, you don't get to scare cops and get away with it with guns. Not regularly. With this...well....it's fun. Cops as I said are usually in the "WOW!...that's cool!" mode of thought. I did clear most of Atlanta's Zone 3 one evening. I had a mechanical breakdown and the officer helping me called in that he had a "tank" broken down on such and such street. Everyone showed up because they didn't believe what they heard on the radio....
"I'm trying to figure out if we have anything that could take it out...I'm in SWAT"
"Got any Light 50's in the department?"
"Nope."
"then you guys are outta luck. It'll stop up to .50 ball from the front, and 7.62 from the side. 50 AP will go through front to back though, but you can't fire slap outta a light 50 what with the muzzle brake and all."
"would smoke work?"
"Not really, the engine draws air in from the crew area, both for the air intake and for the radiator, so it'll clear the crew compartment pretty quick. You'd have to get the smoke in anyhow, you could sit the smoke bomb on the side and let it filter in, but that'd hardly be effective. wanna take a look inside of it?"
"Sure!"
He of course observed that it smelled perfectly like the tanks he served in in the Army. "Gear oil, oil, fuel, and dirt!"
I like having parity with the local PD. They're real polite like.
Though in all fairness, they generally are. Of course he took his own opportunity to joke with his supervisor who drove by to say "Hi". "Hey LT, there's a suspicious vehicle in the parking lot over there...."
He of course complained about all the people that kept asking him if it was legal or not. Sheep...blasted sheep everywhere.
GoRon, yep. I could have all sorts of class III toys if I didn't have all my money sunk into armor. Given how pricy gas is, I'm not sure which would be more expensive to feed.... Sometimes I wonder. But, hey, you don't get to scare cops and get away with it with guns. Not regularly. With this...well....it's fun. Cops as I said are usually in the "WOW!...that's cool!" mode of thought. I did clear most of Atlanta's Zone 3 one evening. I had a mechanical breakdown and the officer helping me called in that he had a "tank" broken down on such and such street. Everyone showed up because they didn't believe what they heard on the radio....
stevelyn
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I understand the ranger approaching you on BLM land, what I don't understand is said federal officer attempting to enforce state law.
I beg to differ. With the exception of corrupt socialist hellholes like CA, MA, NY, MD, NJ, IL et al, the the general trend (although slow and minutely incremental) has been pro-gun at the state and federal level, with the most significant being right to carry laws being enacted nationwide. Those laws after enactment are also adjusted over time becoming more streamlined and libertarian.
Conversely, states on the above mentioned list continue to become more anti-gun as time goes on. Do the math.
The Deutchland comment may be a little offensive to those who live in CA, but it's pretty damn accurate. Don't like it? Change your govt starting with that jackass AG. Don't have a majority to make the changes? Sounds like you're a political refugee in need of a new place to call home.
I beg to differ. With the exception of corrupt socialist hellholes like CA, MA, NY, MD, NJ, IL et al, the the general trend (although slow and minutely incremental) has been pro-gun at the state and federal level, with the most significant being right to carry laws being enacted nationwide. Those laws after enactment are also adjusted over time becoming more streamlined and libertarian.
Conversely, states on the above mentioned list continue to become more anti-gun as time goes on. Do the math.
The Deutchland comment may be a little offensive to those who live in CA, but it's pretty damn accurate. Don't like it? Change your govt starting with that jackass AG. Don't have a majority to make the changes? Sounds like you're a political refugee in need of a new place to call home.
Actually, Pax, one of the chaps on the Ferret List is a Seattle resident. His wife, a friend and him took his then newly purchased/arrived Alvis Scorpion light tank out for a ride to get the tags sorted out. Rubber tracks and all are apparently legal in Wash State. Passed some cops, cops look, cops double take, cops turn around, slowly pull up next to the tank and ask "Can we get a picture please?" Stewart waited around for the cops to call a friend to also come get photos. There was much laughing and posing in front of the tank with a ticket book.
There, I've more than slightly highjacked this thread. Sorry!
There, I've more than slightly highjacked this thread. Sorry!
Randy in Arizona
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rmgill, Don'y be sorry! Your toys are very interesting, thanks for the pictures!
artherd
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Er, if he was in an area where it was otherwise legal to discharge firearms, I belive it was perfectly LEGAL for him to have the loaded firearm in a vehicle! What PC did she cite exactly?
M-Rex
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Now, THOSE are cool. rmgill, you are my new hero.
Sir Aardvark
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In my 25 years of exploring the California desert I have had a run-in with a BLM Ranger only once. He was about 25 years old and looked like some surfer dude, all he asked was if we saw anyone else driving past the camp and then he left.
As for Fish and Game, I've seen them multiple times. They are always nice; the only time I saw one upset was when he pulled into our camp and was bummed out that we were there, because that was where he wanted to spend the night.
As for Fish and Game, I've seen them multiple times. They are always nice; the only time I saw one upset was when he pulled into our camp and was bummed out that we were there, because that was where he wanted to spend the night.
The_Antibubba
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Rmgill,
The rule at THR is that the new guys brings the beer, but if you bring the Ferret to the range, we'll let it slide.
BTW, welcome to The High Road!
The rule at THR is that the new guys brings the beer, but if you bring the Ferret to the range, we'll let it slide.
BTW, welcome to The High Road!
Lonestar.45
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To the original poster-good going! Most leo's respond well to calm discussion if they don't have a chip on their shoulder. He probably still wasn't sure everything you told him was correct, but he wasn't going to try to haul all of you in only to find out you were. He had your license plate #'s, probably your driver's license numbers, etc., and he went back and checked a few things after he left. If you were lying to him, someone would be paying a visit to your house.
50 Shooter
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Paul,
Good job! We've had them come out to the "spot" and never had a problem. That's with all the .50's, 1919's, BBM's.... All they ever asked us to do was keep an eye out for Hunters. Guess we'll see how they are this weekend when we're out.
Gordon,
You can still get a .50 in Kali!!! You can get the .50 DTC or one chambered for .50 spotter/tracer. If you have a registered AR lower you can buy a .50 upper for it.
Good job! We've had them come out to the "spot" and never had a problem. That's with all the .50's, 1919's, BBM's.... All they ever asked us to do was keep an eye out for Hunters.
Guess we'll see how they are this weekend when we're out.Gordon,
You can still get a .50 in Kali!!! You can get the .50 DTC or one chambered for .50 spotter/tracer. If you have a registered AR lower you can buy a .50 upper for it.
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