Russian less-lethal weapon proves surprisingly dangerous

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Wow. Russians have more rights to self-defense than some states in the US! In the states in the US that don't allow carry, the carrying of this pistol would be highly illegal.
 
Well, i do carry one like that for past 2 years.
Weird it is, powerful - hardly. It fires rubber slug of about 180 grains in weight, ~ .60 caliber, for about 50 ft-lbs of muzzle energy.
At point blank range and with light clothing, it may cause a broken rib or jaw, or other such impact damage, but with heavy winter clothing it effectiveness degrades severely.

as for flash-bang, it does work to some extent. It gives a muzzle blast couple of feet long, and sounds like magnum-caliber rifle or something like that.
At night, when fired into the face of attacker, it will bling him / them for good several minutes, providing escape time. It also beats the sh*t out of roaming dog packs.
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Neat, Max -- thanks for posting your pics and comments! Very cool to hear from somebody who has actual experience with this thing. Out of curiosity, how much do they cost in Russia? Compared to, say, a Taser?

(Really like your site, BTW.)
 
Indeed, thanks for the info, Max it is much appreciated.
I too would like to know the story of Max vs the Hounds!
 
Pretty guns..
Ugly guns..
Curious guns..
Guns that don't work but the action "MIGHT" be fixable, and mabey if I can hand carve my own stock out of a 4x8..

ever notice that it doesn't really matter what the gun looks like, all us gun nuts want'em all the same? lol

I wouldn't mind one of them weird lookin' things either, actually...
 
Wow. Russians have more rights to self-defense than some states in the US! In the states in the US that don't allow carry, the carrying of this pistol would be highly illegal.
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Yeah I'd like to hear a little about carrying in russia in general.
 
Heh, now we all want the "gun" that people in Russia carry because they can't carry a real gun.

I shouldn't talk, I want one too. Is there a slimmer version? Those big fat 4 barrels look hard to conceal.
 
Ok, here we go:
pepper sprays are free to buy for anyone 18+; prices are about $5-10 per can (also available CN and CS sprays)

self-defence guns include gas- and rubber-slug handguns and are regulated as follows: to obtain a buy / carry license you must be 21+, pass medical commission (inc. psyco and drug/alcohol tests) and have no crime record. Once got license through local PD, you can buy a thing, and has to register it at same PD within 10 days after purchase. License must be renewed each 5 years.
What guns are available other than Osa:
2-barreled things firing same electrically-primed ammo, like those:
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Modified pistols firing 9-10mm rubber balls (construction generally weakened to prohibit conversion for "real" ammo) - those are more seriously-looking but have negligent efficiency in winter time (against perps with heavy clothes)
Most popular is makarov PM version firing 9m rubber balls:
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Some wise-heads at gov't arms factories also converted old surplus TT and Nagant m1895 to fire same rubber-bullet ammo, but those usually bought as collectibles / plinkers


As for prices, Osa sells here for about $200-250, "condom-firing Makrov" for about $300, Air-Taser for about $1000

The only chance to buy OSA in USA is to get it legally imported through all hops and loops by some gun-selling company. If someonne is really interested, i can get contacts of the manufacturer (it also offers more powerful "police-only" version of OSA firing longer ammo)
 
Max, what about tourists or non citizen residents getting the license and carrying one? I have a good friend who visits there for about two months out of every year. With the crime in some places I wonder if there is a way she can protect herself with something like one of these.
 
Novus Collectus, I'm not sure if a non-resident can obtain a license to buy / carry one.
However, he/she always can buy a pepper spray, which is still much better than nothing
 
Coming soon to America. I am in Russia right now and I have exclusivity rights to bring it to the USA. I will be ready to start selling OSA in 3-4 months. Contact me if you need further information [email protected]
 
Well, it would seem to me that anything titled "less lethal" would imply, "sometimes lethal" or "may be lethal". I would NOT assume that it would be "child safe".........
 
Until they start saying "Phaser" or "Disruptor" on the side, I wont be trusting one.

They do look like fun to mess around with though, especially that makarov...
 
I want one too. What will they be classified as here I wonder. It's not a firearm so would there be any more regulation than a flare gun?
 
I want one too. What will they be classified as here I wonder. It's not a firearm so would there be any more regulation than a flare gun?
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§ 921 Definitions.
(3) The term "firearm" means (A)
any weapon (including a starter gun)
which will or is designed to or may
readily be converted to expel a projectile
by the action of an explosive; (B)
the frame or receiver of any such
weapon; (C) any firearm muffler or firearm
silencer; or (D) any destructive device.
Such term does not include an
antique firearm.
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