S.A. Loaded...in pieces

[hansolo]

I just picked up my first 1911 - S.A. PX9151L - and figured, "Hey, how hard can it be to strip, clean/lube and re-assemble.:banghead: 2 hours later, I'm wondering if I've wandered into early senility: I can field strip my CZ 75 and S&W 910 in my sleep, but, this Springer has me stymied

I am going to call S.A. tommorow and order the G.I. recoil spring/plug set-up, but.....has anyone else "locked-up" with this 2-piece recoil guide?

Thanks for not hurling dead cows at me

 

[RRTX]

I had a bit of a time with mine when I got it also, after I disassembled/reassembled it a few times it became pretty easy though. I know the directions in the manual are kind of confusing, you just have to make sure everything is aligned just like it says. I wish I had some tips for you, but I just stripped and reassembled mine and couldn't see anything that I could call "special" that I was doing

 

[Top_Notch]

I'm not sure where you are stuck, but I'm sure this board can help. I only reply because I bought the exact same gun you have. On my first disassembly, I too, had a hell of time getting it back together. I could not for the life of me get the slide stop to go back in. I guess since it was new and tight it didn't want to go in. I posted here and was able to get it back together (and it worked too!) If I can do it, so can you.

Check the owners manual, or post where you are stuck.

 

[Tamara]

Personally? I usually relocate the full-length guide rod to the trash can immediately upon receipt of a new pistol for just this reason.

 

[sm]

Well I found besides trash cans, FLGR do fit and work on hasps , like on a cattle gate and farm shed door...seems like one fit a hinge in a warehouse elevator gate as well...

 

[kmays]

The one-piece FLGR's aren't nearly so troublesome. With one of them you just reassemble it much like a standard 1911.

There is nothing good about the two-piece guide rods.

 

[1911WB]

FLGR reassembly

I have had one piece & two piece FLGR's & don't see any advantage to them over the standard JMB-designed set-up. Get the standard plug/guide from Brwonell's & you'll end your frustration!

 

[hansolo]

Roger, that

I'm calling Springfield today and order the G.I. plug/guide: I'm no pistolsmith, but I never have problems taking my other semiautos apart or reassembling them. IMHO, S.A. should include a video on the care and feeding of the 2-piece G.R. Live & learn.

 

[BigG]

I usually relocate the full-length guide rod to the trash can immediately upon receipt of a new pistol for just this reason.

 

[SapperLeader]

I had some the issues the first few times I took my 1911 loaded a part too. the 1911 Forum at http://www.1911forum.com had some excellent step by step instructions. Take a look over, it might help.

 

[boing]

The two-piece rod in my old Springfield parts gun could be removed intact, due to the odd contour on the barrel feet, but it was a PITA anyway. Finally put JMB parts in last week, and it's just "right".

I'm having a custom plug machined for my Kimber Compact so I can ditch that FLGR, too.

 

[eddailey]

Here’s a couple of links, with clear pictures, of assembly/disassembly procedures. Don’t be put off by the Kimber Series II page; with the exception of the additional safety they’re pure 1911. Simply disregard any reference to the safety.

I hope this helps,

Ed

http://www.kerensky.net/pics/series2/

http://www.realguns.com/Commentary/comar58.htm

 

[hansolo]

1911 is Good To Go

I finally got a 1911 and spent the night bemoaning my ineptness It's like, Guys don't ask directions when driving, either. This morning I was walked through the reassembly by one of Springfield's EXCELLENT customer support people - Patti- she spent the better part of an hour helping me each step of the way: I could hear her taking-down an identical pistol so we were "on the same page." By the time the phone call was over, my Loaded was back in one piece and I now feel confidant that I'm up to speed...now, I get to go shoot it! I have to say, if the owner's manual were written more clearly, I could have done the job w/o a phone call....but it's great that a resource like Patti(and the others)@Springfield Armory are just a phone call away.

 

[Buckskinner]

Please to illuminate!

Could you help us out with how to Assemble/disassemble (just the 2 pc. differences)?

T'anks.

 

[hansolo]

RE: 2 piece FLGR

The dis-assembly of the 2-piece guide rod is the easiest part: quoting from the owner's manual:

"1.) If your pistol contains a full length guide rod, use a 5/32 Allen wrench or a screwdriver to remove the front portion of the guide rod."

This Allen wrench was included in the box.

FYI, to loosen, turn counterclockwise. the front part will slide out. It is the LAST thing you do when re-assembling........after re-assembling the slide and receiver and replacing the slidestop, compress the slide 1/2 inch, insert the end of the front FLGR with the female threads. Use the allen wrench(or fingers, to start)turning clockwise to tighten.) Some folks use
a drop of blue Loctite or nail polish and secure this thing, as they MAY have been known to come loose....according to whom you talk to.

The only tricky part(s) for me were getting the new 16 Lb. spring back in, and correctly getting the slidestop REAR portion back in the holes.

BTW, S.A. Customer Service is (800)680-6866

 

[1911Tuner]

Field-Strip

Good show! Now...on to the detail-strip!

 

[Smoke]

Never had a problem with the one piece FLGR.
Never had a problem with the stubby JMB design.
Have mildly swore at 2 piece guide rods that need a special tool.

Have cussed enough to make a feedyard cowboy blush at the weird setup on my Kimber Ultra Carry CDP. What genius that flunked out of engineering school came up with this one?

Smoke

 

[hansolo]

Follow-up to FLGR

.....now on to the detail strip!.......1911Tuner

Uh, well......could you come over to my place and be my mentor

Serially, I finally took the brute(S.A. Loaded)out for a little break-in this morning: even the hi-Nineties weather(I hate heat)couldn't keep me from a get-to-know-you session. I ain't no Stephen Camp, so here's my Range Report: Dang 1911 fed/fired/extracted all cartridges fed from box magazines. Ammo used: 4 factory brands of 230g FMJ. The beast hit an inch or two below POA at 10 yards, but it could be me getting used to SA trigger. No problems of any kind. I've been a 9mm guy for over two years:
love my CZ 75B and S&W 910s, but this U.S. Gov. Model of 1911 .45 ACP Cal. is....so.....American!

Note to self: get into handloading - Soon!

 

[1911Tuner]

hansolo said:

Uh, well......could you come over to my place and be my mentor
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Surely. The ambi safety will require removal of the right side grip panel to get the thumb safety out of the gun, but everything from that point is straightforward. If ya get stuck, we can go to the phone for a walk-through. If you can put a model car together, you're over-qualified to
detail strip a 1911 pistol.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=693034#post693034

Luck!

Tuner

 

[hansolo]

Thanks for the link!