10-Ring
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Is the new S&W 1911 considered more a ser 70 or ser 80 or something entirely diff't?
S&w 1911??
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VictorLouis
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It does have a firing-pin safety
However, it's not set-up like a Series-'80 Colt. It's more like what the Kimber Series II pistols are doing. Depressing the grip-safety operates the linkage to release the firing-pin to be able to move forward. Thus, the trigger-pull is not burdened with extra friction nor weight.
However, it's not set-up like a Series-'80 Colt. It's more like what the Kimber Series II pistols are doing. Depressing the grip-safety operates the linkage to release the firing-pin to be able to move forward. Thus, the trigger-pull is not burdened with extra friction nor weight.
10-Ring
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I'm suddenly interested in these guns & am curious what the final product will look like once they hit CA....hmmmm.
Kahr carrier
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Time to go buy a magazine.
You can see pictures of the gun at S&W's web site: http://www.smith-wesson.com/products/firearms/sw1911.htm
10-Ring
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aaah, yes, but dealer shelves are a far cry from available in CA
Byron Quick
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People, I've been lusting after that gun...and look at the laser engraved block letter crap they've put on the slide: SW 1911.
Lord, help them, please.
Lord, help them, please.
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VictorLouis
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Best street price I've read about is
$597.
$597.
10-Ring
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Talked to "Gun Shop Guy" re: SW 1911. He says that he's seen/handled one and they seem very nice. So nice in fact that he has already pre-ordered one for himself...now the question is when will they arrive in CA?
Oh, he also said that his best guess for price is $675 to $725
Oh, he also said that his best guess for price is $675 to $725
My favorite shop got four of them in this morning. I just got back from fondling them. Two of the serial numbers were in the 13X range, another a 29X, and I did not catch the third.
They are priced at $699, which, in this shop, is the same as the Kimber Classic Stainless. The S&W comes with two 8 round Wilson mags where the Kimber comes with one Kimber mag. The S&W has an external extractor, not "traditional" 1911, but is an improvement over the internal extractor. The slides were a pretty good fit to the frame but, on average, the current Kimbers are a little tighter. I like the matte finish on the S&W. It is like their other stainless autos, a finish I have always liked. The trigger pulls on the S&Ws are pretty much the same as Kimber trigger pulls, crisp and about the same weight.
I have owned/own several Kimbers. The only things I would change on my Kimbers is the sights and the grip safety. The S&W has exactly what I would change the Kimber to be, but have been too cheap to do so. The S&W uses the Novak sights, my favorites, and has the smaller bump on the grip safety rather than the larger bump of the Kimber (which never felt quite right to me). Oh, and the S&W beavertail is a little more upswept than the Kimber – not a factor with me but I thought I’d let you know.
In all, it is well built and seems to be a quality piece of hardware. I liked it enough to have them hold one for me and I was not even in the market for another 1911 … but I may be in the market for a divorce lawyer soon if I keep up my current purchasing pace. I may, however, not end up purchasing this one because I wonder if, after production is in full swing, the slide to frame fit will be better on later guns, and I wonder if the price will be lower later. We shall see ... and in the meantime I have to figure out how I am going to pay for it. DOH!!!
They are priced at $699, which, in this shop, is the same as the Kimber Classic Stainless. The S&W comes with two 8 round Wilson mags where the Kimber comes with one Kimber mag. The S&W has an external extractor, not "traditional" 1911, but is an improvement over the internal extractor. The slides were a pretty good fit to the frame but, on average, the current Kimbers are a little tighter. I like the matte finish on the S&W. It is like their other stainless autos, a finish I have always liked. The trigger pulls on the S&Ws are pretty much the same as Kimber trigger pulls, crisp and about the same weight.
I have owned/own several Kimbers. The only things I would change on my Kimbers is the sights and the grip safety. The S&W has exactly what I would change the Kimber to be, but have been too cheap to do so. The S&W uses the Novak sights, my favorites, and has the smaller bump on the grip safety rather than the larger bump of the Kimber (which never felt quite right to me). Oh, and the S&W beavertail is a little more upswept than the Kimber – not a factor with me but I thought I’d let you know.
In all, it is well built and seems to be a quality piece of hardware. I liked it enough to have them hold one for me and I was not even in the market for another 1911 … but I may be in the market for a divorce lawyer soon if I keep up my current purchasing pace.
I may, however, not end up purchasing this one because I wonder if, after production is in full swing, the slide to frame fit will be better on later guns, and I wonder if the price will be lower later. We shall see ... and in the meantime I have to figure out how I am going to pay for it. DOH!!!10-Ring
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Hopefully these fine examples that others have seen/handled throughout the country will be comparable to the ones that get approved for CA
Lone_Gunman
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Just what the world needs...
another $700 1911.
Why would any company want to enter such a crowded market?
another $700 1911.
Why would any company want to enter such a crowded market?
10-Ring
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To diversify their product line and grab those sales from Kimber, Colt, SA, etal
Beorn
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Entering the 1911 market is a rite of passage of sorts.
You can never be certain what they're going to do next.
Just when you thought that there were no ways to modify, tweak, adjust, tinker with, loosen, tighten, or "aesthetically alter" the 1911 style pistol, someone comes up with something new.
You just wait, they'll have coatings to match evening wear next. The O.D. green CQB will give way to the Armani 1911 in pearlescent cobalt blue.
Actually, that color would be kinda cool...
You can never be certain what they're going to do next.
Just when you thought that there were no ways to modify, tweak, adjust, tinker with, loosen, tighten, or "aesthetically alter" the 1911 style pistol, someone comes up with something new.
You just wait, they'll have coatings to match evening wear next. The O.D. green CQB will give way to the Armani 1911 in pearlescent cobalt blue.
Actually, that color would be kinda cool...
10-Ring
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Blue? I have a tough enough time deciding between blue & stainless, now you wanna add another color?
Lone_Gunman
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My suggestion is, if you want one of these, you better get it soon.
I dont expect this will still be in the product line in 24 months.
I dont expect this will still be in the product line in 24 months.
I disagree with this statement. I think the S&W 1911 will probably be pretty successful and be in the product line for some time to come. My guess is there are a lot folks out there who are partial to the S&W brand name who will purchase this pistol. Heck, it might actually introduce the 1911 to many people who might not otherwise have purchased one.
And, the warranty is tough to beat. Does anyone know of any other 1911 manufactures that offer a lifetime warranty?
George Hill
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I have to admit, that SW 1911 looks very good.
Tempting.
I think I'll wait for a Commander version.
Tempting.
I think I'll wait for a Commander version.
Beorn
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I was hoping to see a S&W 1911 in something other than stainless. I think it's a handsome gun and all, but I'd like to see what S&W could do with a Parkerized finish or a nice blued finish.
No one in my family ever even owned a stainless autoloader until my Dad bought his Para Ordinance P-14 about 1996 (I think).
Now stainless revolvers; that's another story.
I wouldn't mind seeing one of these in a long slide though.
No one in my family ever even owned a stainless autoloader until my Dad bought his Para Ordinance P-14 about 1996 (I think).
Now stainless revolvers; that's another story.
I wouldn't mind seeing one of these in a long slide though.
SC_shooter
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I'd like a commander size 10mm, please.
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