S&W 1917: Santa Came Early!

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S&W 1917: Santa Came Early! [Now with Images]

Actually, this is more than a Christmas present. (See this post for other revos I had been contemplating.)

It is a comination...
Guy Fawkes Day
Anniversary
Birthday
Christmas
Valentine's Day
...present. (My wife & I go for one big present each year as opposed to several smaller ones.)

I have seen few enough of these old warhorses since I first learned to lust for one. Yesterday I saw two that were in the best shape I have ever seen...owned by the same guy. He was willing to sell one to me. :D

I found all mechanicals to be tight & performed the revo check as instructed, to the best of my ability (unless the timinig was really off, I don't know that I'd be able to detect bad timing). I was worried about the bore, but it just had not been cleaned since it was last fired (the guy I bought it from had never fired it in the seven years he owned it). It cleaned up shiny, bright, & sharp. :)

The metal finish is really good. I would rate it as 95%+. Some wear on the cylander leading edge. And a little off at the muzzle. No rust. IME, it looks like just a small bit of holster wear.

The grips are great, with only a few small chips out of the bottom.

This revolver spent very little time in a holster, given the wear on the finish, and has been fired seldom. I saw no buggered screws and no signs of ham-fisted cleaning damage.

This S&W 1917 was shipped in 1918.

I will take some pics this PM and post.

This will be my second WWI sidearm. It will accompany my Webley MK VI (which, in the distant past, had be converted to .45ACP/moonclips).

Oh, this is also my first large frame S&W. I think I'll have to get another one, someday. The large frame feels pretty good & balance in my hand.

$750 OTD.

I have a question for you S&W large frame guys. What is the best resource to get for proper disassembly/reassembly? I am specifically interested in some sord of hardcopy instructions. A recommendation on appropriate screwdrivers or any specialty tools would also be appreciated.
 
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I buy screwdriver tips from Brownell's.
If you're interested in the correct military and factory stamps, I highly recommend Charles Pate's U.S. Handguns of WWII: The Secondary Pistols and Revolvers, Mowbray Publishers. Amazon usually lists it. There's an entire chapter on the M1917s.
Most S&Ws were shipped in 1918. A factory letter from Roy Jinks is only about $30 and well worth it.
These big sixguns make great shooters. I've got a Colt M1917 (shipped October, 1918) that I shoot occasionally. (Not today - it was 6 degrees this morning and there's a foot of snow on the ground. I'll wait for spring.)

JT
 
I bought a surplus one once when I had my FFL, shipped of course. It was a wore out POS, but I had a smith work it over to acceptable. I was going to use it only for pins at our club shoots, revolver category. It shot okay with ball, but didn't like cast bullets at all. The rifling, I think, which good and sharp was too shallow. I got rid of it on a football pot at work.

I wasn't out much on that old thing, but woulda liked one in better shape. I wouldn't give $750 for one, though. :eek: I'd get a new production M25 if I wanted a 45acp gun. I was looking at it as a shooter, though, not a collector.
 
Congrat's on your purchase. I have the commercial model, and they shoot like the "Energizer Bunny", Going & Going! imlab8.gif
The only handgun that will stay in the family: everything else is trade-bait....Looking forward to your pic's....Don't forget...;)
 
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Really a nice gun...Lots of moonclips available. Personally, my 1917 does well with the Rimz 25. Besides, easier on the fingers for removal. In AutoRim, I stocked up from Georgia Arms, about $12 per 50. Brass is new...
Kudo's again....
 
Very Nice 1917! Traded mine off some years ago in a fit of stupidity,now its a old junker when I want to shoot .45.
 

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Jfruser, good for you!!! Must have been very good this year;)
Awesome Christmas gift. You have a very cool wife!!!:D
I hope Santa brings me something "S&W"
Best to you,
Eileen
 
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Jfruser, good for you!!! Must have been very good this year;)
Awesome Christmas gift. You have a very cool wife!!!:D
I hope Santa brings me something "S&W"
Best to you,
Eileen

Yep, I sure did get me a good gal. Her instincts are nearly always spot-on. She said it was my gift & I could get whatever I wanted, but that something with some history was her suggestion.

The other year I bought my wife something "SA"nta: a Springfield Armory 1911 Ultra Compact Lightweight in 9mm. She likes the 1911 manual of arms, but not the .45AP recoil.
 
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Wonderful old gun. Just stay away from +P. It probably will do ok with cast...might need to play with alloy hardness. The guy that commented on the $750...maybe high, depends on condition and location. One thing certain...they don't make them any more. I remember buying a P38 about 1955. All matching serials including the holster. Came with a box of ammo. Paid $12.00. Shot up the ammo and sold the rig for $15.00. Thought I had made a DEAL. Oh well. Enjoy it.
 
As far as the price goes, there are a few variables involved, but I did my due diligence, as best I could in the time I had to make it happen.

I searched a whole slew of boards (incl the S&W forum) as well as the online auctions. I saw that 1917s with 50-75% of blueing (& no other issues) were going for $750-800 and that the price dropped quickly below 50%. The 1917 I picked up I would rate at ~95%+ (finish-wise)...if I were a real h@rd@$$, I might go as low as 90%.

So, I felt that I could turn around & make a profit, if need be.

Also, one local gun store had a Colt 1917 in similar (95%+) shape selling for $1500 & a Colt 1917 with an horrific refinish job for $525.

I knew about the $1500 & $525 Colt 1917s before I found the $750 S&W 1917 at lunchtime, did my homework, then bought the S&W 1917 that PM.

This afternoon, I saw another S&W 1917 in another gunshop. It was 65% blueing max, with the "US PROPERTY" & a few other markings ground off. The shop marked it "Extremely Rare" and were asking $895.

I don't buy guns with the intention of selling them at a profit. I keep them. But, I don't like to get taken and try to do my homework.

It is entirely possible that all my research sent me astray & I got taken. I was willing to bet $750 that I was not.
 
Nice looking Smith.. and in that condition worth every penny.

It was designed to shoot good old hardball... avoid +p and it should last another hundred years.

I bought a reprint US Army manual for my Colt 1917... SW guns are covered in it as well.
 
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