commygun
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This is an amazing thread! All these relatively new members popping up with these great old .32 revolvers. A great example of why I enjoy THR.
S & W 32 long CTG??
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Radagast
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flanman: Unfortunately I can't help you there. Try starting a new thread in the gunsmithing subforum.
We have my grandpop's old S & W 32 long CTG, serial number 7256. The patent numbers are March 27, 94; Aug 4, 96; Dec 22, 96; Oct 8, 01; Dec 17, 01; Feb 6, 06; Sept 14, 09. All stamped on top of the barrel. It looks like pearl handle grips, nickel plate.
I have photos but cannot figure out how to get them from my desktop to the thread. Wanting to know approximate value.
I have photos but cannot figure out how to get them from my desktop to the thread. Wanting to know approximate value.
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Caramel:
Serial number 7296 makes it a S&W .32 Hand Ejector Model of 1903 (.32 Hand Ejector 2nd Model) manufactured between 1903 & 1904. The star after the serial number means it has been reworked at the factory, in this case it is rather obvious that it was rebarreled, probably between 1909 & 1917, based on the dates on the barrel. Potentially the nickel finish was applied at the same time.
The grips are mother of pearl, they are probably an aftermarket set from that era, as S&W usually inset a medallion into their pearl stocks.
In 2006 the Standard Catalog of S&W gave a value of $275 in good condition, $315 in very good condition.
Serial number 7296 makes it a S&W .32 Hand Ejector Model of 1903 (.32 Hand Ejector 2nd Model) manufactured between 1903 & 1904. The star after the serial number means it has been reworked at the factory, in this case it is rather obvious that it was rebarreled, probably between 1909 & 1917, based on the dates on the barrel. Potentially the nickel finish was applied at the same time.
The grips are mother of pearl, they are probably an aftermarket set from that era, as S&W usually inset a medallion into their pearl stocks.
In 2006 the Standard Catalog of S&W gave a value of $275 in good condition, $315 in very good condition.
New to me .32 HE and matching Spanish copy
As promised here are my newest firearms. This is my first S&W. I will clean the S&Wup and then for fun as it cannot safely be fired strip and reblue the Spanish copy.
hope yo uenjoyed the show- flanman
barrel, cylinder, backstrap and grips all have matching serial number on the S&W
As promised here are my newest firearms. This is my first S&W. I will clean the S&Wup and then for fun as it cannot safely be fired strip and reblue the Spanish copy.
hope yo uenjoyed the show- flanman
barrel, cylinder, backstrap and grips all have matching serial number on the S&W
Radagast
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Flanman:
Thanks for the pics.
Thanks for the pics.
I agree with You. Definitely not going to fire it. The grips have a funny kind of fit with a few gaps that were at the top that made Me think they were aftermarket. I took them off and found they are Franzites. The logo inside is still readable with a magnifier.
trasponder
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Radagast
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trasponder:
That's the trade mark for Orbea Hermanos of Eibar, Spain. They made copies of several S&W designs.
That's the trade mark for Orbea Hermanos of Eibar, Spain. They made copies of several S&W designs.
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Radagast
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Mr Drysdale:
Your gun is a .32 Double Action Fifth Model. Production ceased at serial number 327641 in 1919, so its a fairly safe bet that your gun was manufactured in late 1918 or 1919.
From 1909 or there abouts S&W advertised their guns as being safe to shoot with smokeless powder loads, so your gun should be safe with current factory ammo.
Caliber on your gun is .32 S&W, not .32 S&W long. .32 S&W long has a longer case and will not chamber in the old top breaks.
Your gun is a .32 Double Action Fifth Model. Production ceased at serial number 327641 in 1919, so its a fairly safe bet that your gun was manufactured in late 1918 or 1919.
From 1909 or there abouts S&W advertised their guns as being safe to shoot with smokeless powder loads, so your gun should be safe with current factory ammo.
Caliber on your gun is .32 S&W, not .32 S&W long. .32 S&W long has a longer case and will not chamber in the old top breaks.
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Thanks, Radagast!
Smith & wesson saftey hammer break top help with the year
Hello, I got this gun from a friend it was his fathers. I have been looking for some info on it like date it was made.
32 cal 5 shot / lemon squeeze
3 " barrel. Gun looks like it was blued
Black plastic grips with a diamond in the middle of them
On left side of barrel it reads 32 s&w CTG
Front site is half moon
Serial Is 113460 on the butt and on the cylinder and the lever for opening the break top
It has a full trigger guard
Right has S&W logo in a circle with trade on top outside and mark bottom outside
The butt is flat with rounded corners the gun is small only 2 fingers fit on the grips
It has a shell ejector when you break top it open
Thanks for the help
Hello, I got this gun from a friend it was his fathers. I have been looking for some info on it like date it was made.
32 cal 5 shot / lemon squeeze
3 " barrel. Gun looks like it was blued
Black plastic grips with a diamond in the middle of them
On left side of barrel it reads 32 s&w CTG
Front site is half moon
Serial Is 113460 on the butt and on the cylinder and the lever for opening the break top
It has a full trigger guard
Right has S&W logo in a circle with trade on top outside and mark bottom outside
The butt is flat with rounded corners the gun is small only 2 fingers fit on the grips
It has a shell ejector when you break top it open
Thanks for the help
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Radagast
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bladesout:
You have a .32 Safety Hammerless manufactured between 1902 & 1909 in the serial range 91418 to 170000.
The gun takes .32 S&W cartridges, not the .32 S&W Long.
Value is not high, maybe $300 in excellent condition. Modern smokeless ammo is available, but expect it to wear out the gun faster than blackpowder. S&W did not start advertising their guns as safe for blackpowder until around 1908/1909.
You have a .32 Safety Hammerless manufactured between 1902 & 1909 in the serial range 91418 to 170000.
The gun takes .32 S&W cartridges, not the .32 S&W Long.
Value is not high, maybe $300 in excellent condition. Modern smokeless ammo is available, but expect it to wear out the gun faster than blackpowder. S&W did not start advertising their guns as safe for blackpowder until around 1908/1909.
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32 long ctg
i found a gun in my closet that is a 32 long ctg, i was reading the things here and it said serial numbers have 6 digits, so i don't know what i have, it has a 5 digit serial number 55XXX. if any one can tell me if it has value i would appreciate it.
i found a gun in my closet that is a 32 long ctg, i was reading the things here and it said serial numbers have 6 digits, so i don't know what i have, it has a 5 digit serial number 55XXX. if any one can tell me if it has value i would appreciate it.
MrDig
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I was talking to S&W customer service today about another revolver. I found out the CTG stands for Cartridge.......Duh I felt almost stupid when he told me.
Jim Watson
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Wow, babyblondeone, I need to go look in my closet and see if I can find a gun.
Any road, many makes and models of guns started at serial number one. So they did not have a six figure serial number until 100,000 had been made.
If we are to tell you anything about your 55XXX, it will take pictures or a very detailed description.
MrDig, there was a discussion of the "I've got a .38 S&W CTG, what is that?" syndrome on the S&W board.
I think what is going on is that we are learning less out of well organized books and the general sort of magazine article that used to be common before the gunzines turned into advertising brochures and more on depending stuff to just pop up out of the blogosphere as needed.
Oh, by the way, if it is a H&R or IJ, it will be inscribed ".38 S&W CTGE."
Any road, many makes and models of guns started at serial number one. So they did not have a six figure serial number until 100,000 had been made.
If we are to tell you anything about your 55XXX, it will take pictures or a very detailed description.
MrDig, there was a discussion of the "I've got a .38 S&W CTG, what is that?" syndrome on the S&W board.
I think what is going on is that we are learning less out of well organized books and the general sort of magazine article that used to be common before the gunzines turned into advertising brochures and more on depending stuff to just pop up out of the blogosphere as needed.
Oh, by the way, if it is a H&R or IJ, it will be inscribed ".38 S&W CTGE."
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sixshooter32
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I'm looking for information on a 32 cal s&w otg it has black rounded hard rubber handle patd # may 11 1880-jan 3 1882-april 9 1880 ser #251957 it
has a 31/4 in. barrel is 5-shot i would like to find out how old it might be and would like to know
what ammo I can use in it. The gun is in great shape and would like to shoot
it thanks
has a 31/4 in. barrel is 5-shot i would like to find out how old it might be and would like to know
what ammo I can use in it. The gun is in great shape and would like to shoot
it thanks
Radagast
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sixshooter32:
You have a .32 Double Action 4th Model manufactured between 1898 & 1909 in the serial range 209301 to 282999. Caliber is .32 S&W, sometimes refered to as .32 S&W short. .32 S&W Long will not chamber in this gun.
Designed for blackpowder rounds, use of modern smokeless ammo may cause rapid wear. Modern loads are loaded to the same pressure as the original blackpowder ammo, but have a much faster pressure peak, which can stress the gun. A little use of modern ammo is probably OK, I would look at reloading with blackpowder or a blackpowder substitute.
This gun lacks an internal hammer block, so leave the chamber under the hammer empty. Otherwise if dropped it could fire.
as mentioned by Jim Watson in the post above, OTG is actually CTG, the abbreviation for cartridge.
You have a .32 Double Action 4th Model manufactured between 1898 & 1909 in the serial range 209301 to 282999. Caliber is .32 S&W, sometimes refered to as .32 S&W short. .32 S&W Long will not chamber in this gun.
Designed for blackpowder rounds, use of modern smokeless ammo may cause rapid wear. Modern loads are loaded to the same pressure as the original blackpowder ammo, but have a much faster pressure peak, which can stress the gun. A little use of modern ammo is probably OK, I would look at reloading with blackpowder or a blackpowder substitute.
This gun lacks an internal hammer block, so leave the chamber under the hammer empty. Otherwise if dropped it could fire.
as mentioned by Jim Watson in the post above, OTG is actually CTG, the abbreviation for cartridge.
Radagast
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babyblonde1:
Assuming your gun is a Smith & Wesson and has the S&W logo on the left side of the frame, then you have a .32 Hand Ejector Model of 1903 2nd Change manufactured between 1906 & 1909 in the serial range 51127 to 95500. With a low serial number 1906 seems certain.
This gun lacks the modern internal hammerblock, so leave the chamber under the hammer empty. Otherwise, if dropped it could fire.
Value is highly dependent on condition. Pics are needed to evaluate it. Assuming very good condition, then roughly $300.
Assuming your gun is a Smith & Wesson and has the S&W logo on the left side of the frame, then you have a .32 Hand Ejector Model of 1903 2nd Change manufactured between 1906 & 1909 in the serial range 51127 to 95500. With a low serial number 1906 seems certain.
This gun lacks the modern internal hammerblock, so leave the chamber under the hammer empty. Otherwise, if dropped it could fire.
Value is highly dependent on condition. Pics are needed to evaluate it. Assuming very good condition, then roughly $300.
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I have a S&W .32 Hand Ejector Model of 1903 2nd Change with pearl handles that do not have a S&W medallion on them, so probably after market, but the fit is quite good. The serial is 518xx. It is in nickel and cosmetically it is in pretty poor shape. In some spots it is fairly nice and shiny but much of the nickel over the rest of the gun is gone and light rust has set in in a couple of places. It was stored in a period leather holster which I also have, and anywhere the metal was touching the leather, the nickel is pretty much gone. The gun has a 6 inch barrel, fixed sights. The action is good - buttery smooth trigger and hammer, locks up nice.
I have a few questions. How scarce is the gun with this barrel length? Should I pursue having the gun refinished/restored or would it diminish any value it may have? If yes, what sort of refinish should I pursue and who could give me additional advice or perform the work? The gun came from family and will probably stay in the family, so I'm not really weighing refinishing costs vs. the value of the gun.
Thanks!
I have a few questions. How scarce is the gun with this barrel length? Should I pursue having the gun refinished/restored or would it diminish any value it may have? If yes, what sort of refinish should I pursue and who could give me additional advice or perform the work? The gun came from family and will probably stay in the family, so I'm not really weighing refinishing costs vs. the value of the gun.
Thanks!
Radagast
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http://www.fordsguns.com/ for refinishing. They can restore it to new.
In 2006 the Standard Catalog of S&W gave a value of $165 in fair condition, $275 in good condition. As its value is so low refinishing will not reduce its value, but will probably cost more than the gun is worth.
I've no data on the percentage of 6 inch guns.
In 2006 the Standard Catalog of S&W gave a value of $165 in fair condition, $275 in good condition. As its value is so low refinishing will not reduce its value, but will probably cost more than the gun is worth.
I've no data on the percentage of 6 inch guns.
harleygreg
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32 Long CTG
A friend of mine asked me to look at his Das's old gun. It is a 32 Long CTG, Serial NUmber 439404, nickel finish with locking holster. It has a 4 1/4 inch barrel and in fair condition. Does anyone know approximately how old this is and what it would be worth?
A friend of mine asked me to look at his Das's old gun. It is a 32 Long CTG, Serial NUmber 439404, nickel finish with locking holster. It has a 4 1/4 inch barrel and in fair condition. Does anyone know approximately how old this is and what it would be worth?
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