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s&w 38 long ctg

Discussion in 'Firearms Research' started by blueboy, Apr 1, 2008.

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  1. blueboy

    blueboy Member

    Mar 31, 2008
    I have what looks like a k-frame s&w revolver 6 shot old m&p. S&W emblem on grips, Spanish writing on the barrel & left side plate. What does the 38 long ctg mean? I can find info on 38 long colt & 38 special but none on 38 long ctg. Thanks!
  2. Starter52

    Starter52 Member

    Oct 16, 2005
    Northeast USA
    ".38 Long" ?

    If the gun is a Smith & Wesson and not a Spanish copy... well, no company likes to advertise for its biggest competitor.

    That's why S&W would put ".38 Long" rather than ".38 Long Colt" on the gun.
  3. SDC

    SDC Member

    Jan 8, 2003
    People's Republic of Canada
    Well, "looks like" and "is" are two completely different things; you MAY have a genuine S&W revolver chambered for 38 Long Colt, but you may also have a Spanish COPY of a S&W revolver chambered for 38 Long Colt. If the latter, I'm not so sure you'd want to fire it anyway, and certainly not before having it checked out by a gunsmith. If you post some pictures (especially of the markings), it'll be easier to identify.
  4. Jim K

    Jim K Member

    Dec 31, 2002
    Someone may have put S&W grips on that gun, but take another look; I will bet they don't really say "S&W".

    S&W NEVER marked a barrel with the legend ".38 LONG" anything. They did mark some early M&P's "For .38 S&W Special and U.S. Service Cartridge." The "U.S. Service Cartridge" is what we call the .38 Long Colt, but the S&W guns did not say that. Other than that, they never made a gun specifically for the .38 Colt cartridge, short or long.

    That gun is almost certainly a Spanish copy of the S&W on the outside but with a different mechanism. They were imported by the ton in the 1920's and 1930's. Some were of fair quality, but most were made of cheap cast iron ("pot metal"). I have seen several blown up with normal loads.

    I strongly recommend against shooting the gun before having it inspected by a gunsmith or some knowledgeable person.

    Value of one of those Spanish guns is negligible except maybe for a deactivated display. One dealer in the area decided to convert a couple into blank guns for starter pistols for the local high school. One blew on the first shot with a blank; the school declined to use the other.

    If you can copy the Spanish markings, we can probably translate them.

  5. Dirk

    Dirk Member

    Feb 26, 2003
    Jim Keenan's Wonderful World of Firearms

    Jim, Your knowledge of firearms of all types, is savant like !
    Thanks in advance for any additional info on my 9m/m Flobert(rimfire) the proof marks aren't quite like you discribed but I'm leaning towards Belgian made.
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