S&W 4006 vs S&W 410

[jeff-10]

I am considering purchasing either a 4006 or 410. The 4006 would have to be purchased used as they don't make them anymore and the 410 would likely new. Does anyone have any experience with them? Why did S&W go from the 4006 to the 410? Which one is more reliable and accurate?

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

Why did S&W go from the 4006 to the 410?

The 410 did not supplant the 4006, but was/is an addition to the line. It differs mainly in the frame material (alloy vs. stainless steel) and a barrel/slide lockup requiring a squared-off slide.

 

[sohcgt2]

I'd like in on this, I'm looking at a 4003tsw and am unfamiliar with them. Any help would be appreciated. Are they reliable, easy to learn, are high cap magazines available?

 

[whatnickname]

4006 vs.410

Both are good guns one is all stainless and the other has an alloy frame as the other poster stated. I checked the S&W web site and they are not showing the 410 in their current line up so it looks like either way you'll have to go for a used pistol. I've had both guns and both functioned very well with a wide varierty of bullets and ammo. Neither one ever failed to run. I recently purchased a used 4006 and 4566 off on the Gunbroker site. Both are used cop guns and like quite a few that are police trade-ins they have been carried way more than they have been fired. Both are in 95% condition but mechanically they are in perfect shape showing very little evidence of having been fired. I paid $297 for the 4566 and $319 for the 4006. There are quite a few used police guns on the market these days representing excellent values. The 4003 is the same gun with an alloy frame...just an earlier generation pistol than the 410. Some will argue that the alloy isn't as durable as the steel. Hog wash! I've never heard of an alloy S&W wearing out so what it boils down to is how you will use and carry the pistol. Be sure you understand the basic features of these pistols. All of them are equipped with magazine disconnect devices. The weapon is inoperable with the magazine removed. I'm sure that the lawyers made S&W see this feature as a very necessary safety measure to design into their pistols. Accidentally drop the magazine in a high stress situation and what you're holding at that point is basically a paper weight. The bad guys aren't going to give you a "do-over" if this happens.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I'd like in on this, I'm looking at a 4003tsw and am unfamiliar with them. Any help would be appreciated. Are they reliable, easy to learn, are high cap magazines available?

This is an alloy-frame version of the 4006 with an accessory rail on the frame. This may cause problems with some holsters. S&W traditional autoloaders are very reliable. The DA/SA operation, slide mounted manual safety and magazine disconnect safety might take a bit of getting used to. A full-size .40 caliber like this has an 11-round magazine, only one more round than the "neutered" 10-rounders.

 

[sohcgt2]

Thanks for all the info, this makes the decision making process much easier. I've been debating with myself between 3 used P.D. issue pistols, the S&W 4003 TSW, a Sig 226 DAK, and a Glock 22. I think the S&W is leading the race at this point.

 

[Redgum]

I have a S&W model 410 here
.......... if you need pics or info I'd be happy to do what I can to help you

 

[kludge]

Some will argue that the alloy isn't as durable as the steel. Hog wash! I've never heard of an alloy S&W wearing out so what it boils down to is how you will use and carry the pistol.

I had a 411. (Pre-ban 410). It was my first handgun.

The barrel peened the frame very badly. It would cycle fine while shooting, but took ALL my strength to cycle it by hand after about 100 rounds.

The frame peening started after about 800-1000 rounds. To get the action working again I would have to file the peened area on the frame about every 50-100 rounds.

I traded it soon after.

 

[mikerault]

Replacing plastic parts on SW 410

I have replaced the recoil rod with a steel rod from Wolffs, while doing a tune-up and replacing the springs (main, recoil, drawbar plunger, ejector) I discovered that the disconnector is also plastic, does anyone know if there is a steel replacement for this part?

Mike

 

[Quiet]

The S&W Model 410 was produced as the less expensive version of the S&W Model 4006.
Lower quality materials, not as much attention to detail when making it.

I use to own a S&W Model 4006 and 4013. Got them when the .40S&W first took off. I no longer own them. There are far better pistols in .40S&W than the S&W Model 40xx series.

There are a lot of used police trade-in S&W Model 40xx series pistols on the market, due to almost all LE agencies switching over to something else.

The California Highway Patrol is the last big agency to issue the S&W Model 40xx series pistols (they issue the S&W Model 4006TSW). There have been reported reliability issues with them and the California Highway Patrol is now looking at the S&W M&P40 as a replacement.