S&W 617 10 shot or 6 shot

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I'm looking at getting a S&W 617 but I've heard that the 10 shot cylinders are made of Aluminum??? and the 6 shots are SS....the frames on both are SS..I've never seen a gun with a Aluminum cylinder...Can anyone give me the facts on this? Doesn't sound right, I would think they both are SS..
 
I just found this

The 617-2 had a 10-shot aluminum alloy cylinder; All of the others have stainless steel cylinders. Some of the last 617-2s apparently had stainless steel cylinders. The finish on the 617-2 is bead-blasted to match the clear anodized cylinder.

617-0: flash-chromed forged parts, non-drilled&tapped frame, 6-shot stainless cylinder
617-1: color case hardened forged parts, drilled&tapped frame, 6-shot stainless cylinder
617-2: CCH forged parts, D&Ted frame, 10-shot aluminum alloy cylinder (transitional, later ones started to have MIM triggers and stainless cylinders)
617-3: MIM hammer/trigger, D&Ted frame, change to integral frame lug, 6-shot stainless cylinder
617-4: 10-shot stainless cylinder
617-5: 6-shot stainless cylinder, internal lock system
617-6: (current production) 10-shot stainless cylinder, ILS
 
the 617 6 or 10 shot are all stainless steel.

I've got a 10 shot 617 w/6" Bbl. - it's a fine shooter.

I've read some say the trigger pull is slightly different
with the different rotation of the 6 shot vs 10 shot fwiw.

I don't believe the 6 shot 617s are in current production

Randall
 
Agreed on the 10 shot 6". Very accurate, great fun, cheap to shoot. What's not to love? I Had a Taurus M94 but traded it toward the 617. For me it was a good move.

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Thanks,
ya I saw a post somewhere were the poster made a comment about his 617 not having the aluminum cylinder and I got freaked out about it...Seems they did a few at first with aluminum cylinders and then moved away from that thank god. If I wound up with an aluminum cylinder gun I would have to be put on suicide watch....LOL..:cuss::banghead:
 
I have the 617-06, truely the finest .22 revolver I have ever encountered. My wife started shooting with it before she bought her 686 for ccw, and one daughter is now working out with it for the same goal in mind.
Jim
 
Yes, the early 10-shot 617's and 17's had aluminum cylinders. It was changed to stainless steel but that has been at least ten years.
 
I just bought a 617 brand new 10 shot but it seizes up stinger .22LR's before completing 10 shots.
I prefer my Browning Buckmark better as it shoots stingers, Aguila's just about anything and is just as accurate.
 
every time somebody says "aluminum cylinder", I cannot help but think of aluminum block engines, as in Chevy Vega
(not a good thing to be reminded of, bought one for the daughter way back when, used, as in "used up when made")
I can understand why 317 owners do enjoy their guns, but me, I reserve my use of aluminum to EZ open beer cans (easier to crumple up in your hand, and they do make swell targets)

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if stick with the older deep blue model k-17 six shooters, no worries about aluminum cylinders or frames
 
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if stick with the older deep blue model k-17 six shooters, no worries about aluminum cylinders or frames
At the time they came out with the aluminum cylindered 10-shot K-22's, I was doing a lot of year-round small game hunting and wanted one bad. I just couldn't warm up to the aluminum cylinder or matte finish. Luckily I was smart enough to wait for a nice older, bright blued K-22 to present itself and all was right with the world. Set me back a whopping $265!
 
At the time they came out with the aluminum cylindered 10-shot K-22's, I was doing a lot of year-round small game hunting and wanted one bad. I just couldn't warm up to the aluminum cylinder or matte finish. Luckily I was smart enough to wait for a nice older, bright blued K-22 to present itself and all was right with the world. Set me back a whopping $265!
What is wrong with the aluminum cyclinders or frames?
 
There is finely polished and blued steel and then there is everything else. I don't mind the aluminum receiver on my 10/22's but don't mess with my sixguns.
 
every time somebody says "aluminum cylinder", I cannot help but think of aluminum block engines, as in Chevy Vega


Nothing wrong with an aluminum block as long as you have cast iron sleeves or cylinders which the Vega did not have just some type of chemical coating that was "supposed" to do the same thing.

I have a 617 with an aluminum cylinder and it seems to be working well. I would guess S&W engineers thought this out before they started making it. I'm sure if there was a safety issue there would have been a recall. I'm also fairly certain that the reason for going back to steel was outcry from traditionlists.
 
every time somebody says "aluminum cylinder", I cannot help but think of aluminum block engines, as in Chevy Vega


Nothing wrong with an aluminum block as long as you have cast iron sleeves or cylinders which the Vega did not have just some type of chemical coating that was "supposed" to do the same thing.

I have a 617 with an aluminum cylinder and it seems to be working well. I would guess S&W engineers thought this out before they started making it. I'm sure if there was a safety issue there would have been a recall. I'm also fairly certain that the reason for going back to steel was outcry from traditionlists.
When did they start making the 617 in aluminium or stop making the 617 in aluminium?
 
When did they start making the 617 in aluminium or stop making the 617 in aluminium?

Not sure but while trying to find the answer on the S&W forum it seems the change from aluminum was because people didn't like the way the cylinder looked. Totally cosmetic.

I'm sure someone will chime in with the dates.
 
When did they start making the 617 in aluminium or stop making the 617 in aluminium?

Not sure but while trying to find the answer on the S&W forum it seems the change from aluminum was because people didn't like the way the cylinder looked. Totally cosmetic.

I'm sure someone will chime in with the dates.
I bought mine in February this year a few months ago.
 
My 8-shot .22 LR S&W 317 AirLite has as aluminum cylinder and barrel. The chambers and bore are fitted with steel liners.

I've shot CCI Stingers and Velocitors with no problem.
 
My 8-shot .22 LR S&W 317 AirLite has as aluminum cylinder and barrel. The chambers and bore are fitted with steel liners.

I've shot CCI Stingers and Velocitors with no problem.
Maybe my 617 is just picky but usually revolver cylinders don't jam. This should be able to digest all .22LR ammo.
 
stinger, I don't have a problem shooting any type of 22 ammo. I have no guess why yours is picky.
 
if there is one universal complaint about S&Ws, it's their cost
when all of your major competition is building cheaper guns, you better do "something" about that

S&W is not exactly world famous for giving a hoot about what their customer base thinks about what they do with their gun designs, they care about cheaper cost of manufacture, same as Glock and KelTec and Ruger

if customers don't like the esthetics of that side hole, S&W will stop making guns with that hole in the side ?
if customers rant, rave, fall down on the floor and kick their heels, and get all red in the face over MIM parts, S&W will stop using MIM parts ?
if customers whine and wail and gnash their teeth about the bass-ackwards poorly engineered ILS, S&W will eliminate or redesign ?

not hardly

today's S&W does not hesitate to put barrel liners in brand new 357s
that speaks volumes
and they are returning to aluminum cylinders in 22s
who ever woulda' thunk it

cosmetic, yes, any eye that is paying attention can see the obvious difference between aluminum and steel, blue or SS vs anodized or whatever - which ought be a 'flag' to anybody who grasps the difference in properties of the metals - unsurprising that people complained
Far less obvious a flag if frame and cylinder match, of course

S&W dropped aluminum K cylinders because it was so clearly is a bad choice for cylinders; only worse thing they could have done worse is put an aluminum barrel on it, lined or not

yeah, you can shoot mild mannered 22LR thru aluminum cylinders
no, the ILS hardly ever actually fails, if you don't really stress it too hard
no, MIM parts don't often break, quite rare in fact
they mostly just work, but "mostly just works" doesn't make 'em in any way better
they mostly all go bang when you pull the trigger, including those infamous old pot metal Saturday Nite Special guns
(best not get overly enthusiastic about running brass/bronze bristles through aluminum cylinder holes though)

lighter = better according to Sales & Marketing
just ask any glockster
but if you stress your handguns, and run high round counts thru 'em, you best have steel in the component parts that really really count most

Will a K or J aluminum cylinder hold up ok for the vast majority of 22 rimfire shooters ?
most likely yes
will it ever go head to head on round count with a steel K or J that has already handled steady use by more than one generation of shooters ?
not hardly

but I guess we will have to wait 10 years to see what we see
(they will all be mostly tupperware by then anyway.. me, I can hardly wait for the new & improved All-American-All-Aluminum 454 Casull ... finally, one light enough I can hold it up one handed)
 
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