Deadmanwalking_05
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Plate shooter there is lucky ....then there is lucky as hell.
You fall into the latter category
Fine lookin' shootin' iron.
You fall into the latter category
Fine lookin' shootin' iron.
S&W 617 / 17 club
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Good thread guys.
Since yesterday I´m a owner of a smith & wesson 617-1 with a 4" barrel. 
It´s a great gun, I have yesterday shooting 50 shoots and 2 of this shoots were in the 10 (of a german target).
If I had time, I make some pictures of my revolver.
greats
617-1
It´s a great gun, I have yesterday shooting 50 shoots and 2 of this shoots were in the 10 (of a german target).
If I had time, I make some pictures of my revolver.
greats
617-1
ReadyRob
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Holy Cow! what great looking guns. Please permit me to ask a question or two, in these guns I'm a toddler.
They must be double action only or I would have seen these guns a cowboy shoot competition?
What does underlug barrel mean? Did a search and couldn't find out much. It looks like maybe the ejector rod?
In the SW line I've learn in my searching that it goes K22 then model 17 and now the 617 which can be had in 6 or 10 round and 4" or 6" barrel lengths.
What are we talking about $ wise, just ball park but I gotta get one (or two) of these beauties.
thanks guys
They must be double action only or I would have seen these guns a cowboy shoot competition?
What does underlug barrel mean? Did a search and couldn't find out much. It looks like maybe the ejector rod?
In the SW line I've learn in my searching that it goes K22 then model 17 and now the 617 which can be had in 6 or 10 round and 4" or 6" barrel lengths.
What are we talking about $ wise, just ball park but I gotta get one (or two) of these beauties.
thanks guys
617-1 -
Congratulations on a fine revolver. You were right the first time. You have a 6-shot 617-1 with a 4" barrel.
According to the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson (aka Supica & Nahas), the 617-1 variants were made from 1993 to 1996. If you supply the supply the serial # in the form BDY3XXX (i.e. don't include the last few numbers for security reasons), someone will look it up the the Std Catalog and let you know.
ReadyRob -
Double action revolvers are generally able to be shot in both double and single action. Some will have a gunsmith render them "double action only" (DAO) by removing the hammer spur and the DA sear on the trigger. Some revolvers come this way from the factory (e.g., model 642). If it's a double action revolver and has a full hammer, though, it's DA/SA.
Those who shoot in Cowboy Shoot competitions are trying to be a bit authentic, and AFAIK, the competition itself requires the use of a SA revolver, such a Colt SAA or clone.
The underlug is the large section of the lower barrel the encloses the ejector rod and runs the length of the barrel. Look at some images of the 617s predecessors, the Model 17 and the K-22, and you'll see the difference. Functionally, I suppose it might make the barrel a tad stiffer, and the heavier muzzle weight helps tame muzzle flip during recoil (more of an issue with it's big brother, the 686 .357 magnum), but it also makes the 6" version feel muzzle heavy to some.
They're great guns, but you'll pay for it. Locally, I'm seeing new 617s for $700-$750. If you look around you can find used ones a bit cheaper, maybe $500-$600. If you're going used, and like blued guns without the underlug, keep your eyes open for a nice Model 17 or K-22. You can probably find a good one for the price of a used 617. It'll be a great shooter as well, and will hold it's value.
hello MrBorland.
"Congratulations on a fine revolver. You were right the first time. You have a 6-shot 617-1 with a 4" barrel.
According to the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson (aka Supica & Nahas), the 617-1 variants were made from 1993 to 1996. If you supply the supply the serial # in the form BDY3XXX (i.e. don't include the last few numbers for security reasons), someone will look it up the the Std Catalog and let you know."
Thanks.
I payed 300.- Euro for this gun. Like I say, if I have more time, I will be made some pictures.
By the way, the serialnumber is starting with BSA **** .
Your Information about the date of built is realy helpful.
Because some time ago I read for a german forums for weapon, that the 6-shot-cylinder type was built before the 10-shot-cylinder type. But I dont know if this accurate.
greats
617
"Congratulations on a fine revolver. You were right the first time. You have a 6-shot 617-1 with a 4" barrel.
According to the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson (aka Supica & Nahas), the 617-1 variants were made from 1993 to 1996. If you supply the supply the serial # in the form BDY3XXX (i.e. don't include the last few numbers for security reasons), someone will look it up the the Std Catalog and let you know."
Thanks.
I payed 300.- Euro for this gun. Like I say, if I have more time, I will be made some pictures.
By the way, the serialnumber is starting with BSA **** .
Your Information about the date of built is realy helpful.
Because some time ago I read for a german forums for weapon, that the 6-shot-cylinder type was built before the 10-shot-cylinder type. But I dont know if this accurate.
greats
617
The Std. Catalog is a bit vague here: The entries in the BSA area are:
BRF: August 1994.
BVA (329-1);CAF: Oct. 2003
CAM: Jan 1996
So the serial numbers sometime after BRF got interrupted, then resumed with CAM?
Maybe someone with more knowledge of S&W serial #s can help. I'd probably put your BSA in 1995. If you call (or email) S&W directly, they can probably tell you the date.Here, the Std. Catalog is helpful: The 10-shot was introduced with the 617-2 in 1996.
300 Euro = approximately $420. Gun prices in the U.S. have risen sharply in the last couple of years, and $420 for a pre-lock 617 (presumably in good condition) would be a very good price.
hi guys.
now i head some time to make some pictures of my smith & wesson 617-1.
the picture from the target is my result with "CCI Standard Velocity" (my first shoots with this gun).
what kind of ammunition do you aplly?
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617
a quiestion, who can i insert the picture in the post?
now i head some time to make some pictures of my smith & wesson 617-1.
the picture from the target is my result with "CCI Standard Velocity" (my first shoots with this gun
).what kind of ammunition do you aplly?
greats
617
a quiestion, who can i insert the picture in the post?
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With my 617-4, I use Federal #750 high-velocity, and achieve good results at 50 yards. With my 617-6, I can do a little better with CCI Standard Velocity. With my 17-8, there is no difference between the two, so I use the cheaper Federal #750.
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You can insert a picture in your post by using the IMG tags:
{IMG}picture-URL{/IMG} (replace the "{" and "}" with "[" and "]", respectively), like so:
My Conventional Pistol/Bullseye set (625-6, 686-5, and 617-4):
My 617-4:
My 617-6 (holstered), 617-4, and 17-8:
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You can insert a picture in your post by using the IMG tags:
{IMG}picture-URL{/IMG} (replace the "{" and "}" with "[" and "]", respectively), like so:
My Conventional Pistol/Bullseye set (625-6, 686-5, and 617-4):
My 617-4:
My 617-6 (holstered), 617-4, and 17-8:
This one is a Model 17 (no dash).
It is for sale (Michigan) and is posted elsewhere. It sits in the safe. In case anyone's interested.
http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=50368
It is for sale (Michigan) and is posted elsewhere. It sits in the safe. In case anyone's interested.
http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=50368
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hi.
@ kle: thank you for the statement who i can insert a picture in my post.
they all are very nice guns.
but i think the k22 combat masterpiece is my favorit, it´s lock great.
at america it is very great, you can buy weapons, who i heard, without a licens. at germany, you must have a certificate to buy and to exhibit a gun.
you must be a hunter, sportsshoter or a colector of guns, besides you don´t become a gun. :banghead:
greats
617
@ kle: thank you for the statement who i can insert a picture in my post.
they all are very nice guns.
but i think the k22 combat masterpiece is my favorit, it´s lock great.
at america it is very great, you can buy weapons, who i heard, without a licens. at germany, you must have a certificate to buy and to exhibit a gun.
you must be a hunter, sportsshoter or a colector of guns, besides you don´t become a gun. :banghead:
greats
617
The K22 Combat Masterpiece, aka the Model 18 (or some of the early Model 17-6s with had 4", non-underlugged barrels), is a pretty nice gun, although my first 'new' gun was the 617-6 with the 6" full-underlug barrel, so anything else feels weird to me =)
Re: buying guns in the USA:
It depends on the state you're buying guns in--each state is different. Generally, you must be a resident of that state, you must be at least 21, and you must pass a criminal background check. I live in Virginia, and that's pretty much all we need to do, and we don't need to get the guns registered with the government or police, either.
I've heard that if you live in New York, you must first buy the gun, then apply for a license to own the gun (with the dealer holding the gun for you until you receive the license). I believe guns are registered there, although I'm not sure.
In California, there's a waiting period of a few days between when you buy the gun and when you can pick it up.
Re: buying guns in the USA:
It depends on the state you're buying guns in--each state is different. Generally, you must be a resident of that state, you must be at least 21, and you must pass a criminal background check. I live in Virginia, and that's pretty much all we need to do, and we don't need to get the guns registered with the government or police, either.
I've heard that if you live in New York, you must first buy the gun, then apply for a license to own the gun (with the dealer holding the gun for you until you receive the license). I believe guns are registered there, although I'm not sure.
In California, there's a waiting period of a few days between when you buy the gun and when you can pick it up.
I forgot something.
If you are a sportsshooter, you must be 21 years or older, that you can buy weapons with a bigger caliber than .22lr. If you want buy a gun, with a bigger caliber, and you are only 21 - 25, you must have a psychological analysis. From 18 - 21 years you can only buy weapons with the caliber .22lr or shot guns with caliber 12 or smaler, but only shot guns with 1 or 2 shoots (with 1 or 2 barrels, where you must after every shot be reload).
And then very much other instructions, but all i don´t can ride hear.
greats
617
If you are a sportsshooter, you must be 21 years or older, that you can buy weapons with a bigger caliber than .22lr. If you want buy a gun, with a bigger caliber, and you are only 21 - 25, you must have a psychological analysis. From 18 - 21 years you can only buy weapons with the caliber .22lr or shot guns with caliber 12 or smaler, but only shot guns with 1 or 2 shoots (with 1 or 2 barrels, where you must after every shot be reload).
And then very much other instructions, but all i don´t can ride hear.
greats
617
We love the 17s, 617s and K22s up here in Canada too. They don't last long when they go up for sale.
Here's my 17-3, the blueing is worn on the ejector rod but otherwise it is very clean. I added the Tyler T adaptor to match it's bigger K frame brothers.
Here's my 17-3, the blueing is worn on the ejector rod but otherwise it is very clean. I added the Tyler T adaptor to match it's bigger K frame brothers.
617-1 said:
Unfortunately, there isn't any way to resize the pictures with the IMG-tags; you must do that to the pictures themselves, or maybe use a hosting service that will resize the pictures for you.
That's a beautiful 617, by the way!
geologist, I will eventually pick up a 17 just like yours, with a Tyler T-grip, and flat-bottom magna/service grips, and have it join my S&W 19-3, also wearing T-grips and flat-bottom magnas. And then I'll find a 25-2, outfit it with T-grips and flat-bottom magnas, and I'll have a classic bullseye set! Nice gun you've got there!
Thank you.
I have think, that it is go like HTML. Than I must looking for a hostingservice.
@geologist: I´ve every time think, that handguns in canada are don´t allowed?
Amercian forums are very lighten as german forums. At germany the users sometimes are very unfriendly and nerved.
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617
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617-1, handguns are legal to own and shoot at registered ranges. Concealed carry is not commonly permitted and it is believed that there are only 30 legally permitted (ATC-3) CCWs in the entire country. There are of course thousands of criminals who regularly illegally carry but hey, they have more rights than us law abiding, tax paying citizens.
Handgun carry for defense from wildlife in remote locations is possible under the Wilderness ATC and there are probably 1000 holders of this type of permit (I'm one of them).
Handgun carry for defense from wildlife in remote locations is possible under the Wilderness ATC and there are probably 1000 holders of this type of permit (I'm one of them).
thanks for your answer.
today i was shooting again with the 617.
it´s realy funny. today i was shooting the magtech high velocity, the cci standard verlocity and the rws pistole match.
the best results i had with the ammonition form cci.
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617
today i was shooting again with the 617.
it´s realy funny. today i was shooting the magtech high velocity, the cci standard verlocity and the rws pistole match.
the best results i had with the ammonition form cci.
greats
617
Robereno
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A stock 617-6 that I purchased a couple of years ago. An excellent gun.
Was wondering if someone can recommend a place to purchase a wooden grip for this?
Cheers
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