S&W 686 Questions

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Well my Dad's new lady friend, well rather his old high school sweetheart that came back into his life after we found out my mom was having an affair with a co-worker for the last 3 years. Nice right?? Anyway, she found out I have an affliction for all types of firearms and brought up the fact she had a revolver from her ex-husband but all she knew was it was a .357 and asked my Dad if I could clean it up for her. Well I'm not bunch of a revolver guy but I've been drooling over a SS 4" 686 for a while now, it's about the only revolver I would consider buying. Well wouldn't you know, my Dad stops by to drop it off and pulls out a beautiful looking 6" SS 686. My jaw hit the floor b/c first off, apparently this guy left this with her for a home defense gun but she don't shoot so this thing is way out of her league and I'm 6'5 240 lbs and the grips seem even large for myself so I know she wouldn't be comfortable shooting it, which she never has. Well you could tell it'd been shot a lot from all the gunpowder residue built up but on the outside its in great condition, there's a small nick on the grips and a tad bit of rust in the grooves of the rifling but other than that is excellent condition once I got it cleaned up.

My question is, what is all this pre-lock and lock design? it seems like everyone wants a pre-lock model which I imagine this one is, I have all the paperwork in the box but no dates, my guess is it's at least 10 yrs old.

Also, in the manual it talks about sight settings using 158 grain .38 special ammo. At 7 yards, aim 22 clicks from bottom position, 15 yards aim 26 clicks from bottom position. What is a click??

Anyways, I think she would sell it to me if I wanted to buy it, I don't want to rip her off but she has no idea of the value in the first place. I even feel like it's not out of the realm of possibility for her to give it to me once she sees how nice I cleaned it up and how badly I want it. I don't know why she would have even wanted it cleaned up since she never uses it and doesn't plan to, I'm almost certain it's sat in the box since her divorce and it's almost like she wanted me to see it and see if I liked it. I could see her selling it to me for like $150-200 bucks as well... What do you guys think is the best route to go to get this thing in my safe for the best price?? What would be a fair price to offer given the rusting in the barrel, I can still see rifling but it does have minor rust in the grooves, no pitting though and a tight lockup with the frame in perfect condition and grips at 98%. They're the original wood grips with S&W logo and look 10x better once I wiped a lil rem oil on them, nice and shiny now.... Also says on the Manual it's a .357 Combat Magnum, don't know if that makes it any different from any other 686.

I'd even consider telling her this is too much gun for her which it undoubtedly is and offer to buy her another revolver like a lil 380 or something as a trade.
 
Retail for a used 686 is in the $400 dollar ballpark.

Considering that it's a stainless steel barrel why do you think it's rust? SS can rust, but usually only if badly abused, maybe it's only powder residue. Have you actually cleaned it?

Actually it's not too much gun for the lady if she shoots 38 special. It's a very gentle gun (recoil wise) with 38s. She does need to practice though.
 
The grips could also be changed to a smaller more suitable sized design. This gun takes the grips of a K frame S&W. the next size down in frame.
 
it's definately rust, I did clean it with a copper bore brush and powder solvent and it's got that dark brown/red rust color in the grooves of the rifling, it's definately rust.

I suppose you're right that she could probably handle it shooting 38 special, it's a heavy gun so I'm sure that helps with the recoil, but she don't shoot at all either so I don't know.

And thanks for the pictures Bottom Shelf, this is a pre-lock model as I assumed it would be...
 
If possible, open the cylinder and provide the full model number, located directly above where the crane pivots in the frame, such as 686-3.

The serial # appears in the same place. If you can provide all but the last 2 or 3 digits, someone here can tell you the year it was made.

The barrel does sound like it has some rust build up in it. You may need to take it to a gunsmith to check that out. Assuming it is not permenantly harmed, then I agree that $400 would be a fair all around price. Though I've seen used 6" 686s going for high 400s lately too, and I saw one major ripoff at $700, IIRC. Unless the rust has ruined the barrel, $150-200 would be taking her for a ride. Heck, you can't even get S&W Model 10 38 Specials for that anymore, and they are quite common on the used market.

Even with smaller grips, a 6" 686 is still a pig of a gun if one doesn't have much hand and arm strength. If she agrees to sell you the 686 and she still wants a gun of some type, you and your father could take her around and guide her to something that she likes and will shoot frequently. But let her pick it. Be advised though that just because a gun is little doesn't mean it is a good idea. Little lightweight snubs look attractive to most people for women at first glance, but recoil can be unpleasant for many in these tiny guns. My wife positively hates my airweight S&W 642 in 38 Special, but she finds my 45 ACP M1911 5" tolerable.

Also, in the manual it talks about sight settings using 158 grain .38 special ammo. At 7 yards, aim 22 clicks from bottom position, 15 yards aim 26 clicks from bottom position. What is a click??

Hmmm, must be an older manual than mine, as I don't recall ever reading that. It is probably referring to the "click" sound that can be heard when turning the rear sight adjustments with a screwdriver.

The 686 is a fabulous gun, one that will eventually infect you with the revolver bug ... you've been warned :evil: !


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I just picked up a 6" 686-4 7 shot yesterday for $250 from my father in law and it is a absolute tack driver. he parted ways with it after he had lost confidence in it due to light primer strikes, so after a tightened strain screw and about 5 min ithe mistery was solved and handed him his gun back. to my suprise he asked if I liked it and if i wanted it, i said I would buy it and then he said fine but i wont take more than $250:D
 
This one goes to range as often as I do. It gets a constant diet of 150g LSWC 38's. A 50 & 75 yrd silhouette gitter, very capable. I can hear it now ..... ding :)


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A good condition M686 w/6" barrel is worth between $400 and $550 depending which part of the country you're in. If you give he anything less than $400 you're not doing right by her.

If she really wants to keep the revolver for HD like said above, change the grips for her and load it up with a good .38 Special SD round like the Remington FBI load (R38S12) or some 135gr Speer .38 Special +P rounds.
 
JAD0110.......D@mn it! Now I want a 686 just like yours. You guys are gonna get me in trouble with all these good looking guns.
 
I love my S&W 686 Plus revolvers (2.5" and 4"). Both have the ILS and both have been trouble free from the start. An offer of $400 would get you a mighty fine revolver.
 
I have a 6" 686 that I picked up almost new for $250 from a friend of a friend. He needed money for bills so I happily gave him what he was asking, which at the time was the limit of what I could afford. I told him that if he came back with the $250 within two months I'd sell him back the gun. Fortunately, that was in the late 90's, so that offer is long gone.
 
I see used 686s in the shops around here for well over $400. Provided the bore is not pitted from rust hers should be worth at least that.
 
The 686 is a fabulous gun, one that will eventually infect you with the revolver bug ... you've been warned !

A fair warning alright. Quite a few folks I know, myself among them think the 686 4" is quite possibly the best revolver ever. It certainly got me into the rather expensive habit of collecting Smith and Wesson.
 
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