S&W Model 14 (To buy or not to buy)

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I was looking through the most recent SOG flyer and noticed they have .38spl 6" S&W Md. 14s with adjustable sights in "Very Good" condition for $230. I figure I could get it shipped and transferred for about $280. I had recently read an article about these in the July Guns and Ammo mag. I don't own a S&W as of yet and I must admit I'm a bit intrigued by this revolver. I've ordered from SOG before and have had good luck so I'm not interested in comments about the relative merits of SOG as a vendor. Given this information I'd be interested in hearing the opinions of some board members about this particular model revolver, it's intrinsic value, if the delivered price quoted is reasonable, and what kind of accuracy I should expect. Thanks in advance for your comments.

- Paul
 
If the condition is as stated that would be a real good deal in my area. The model 14 is a nice revolver. In my opinion a very desirable gun.
 
K-frames are very nice revolvers. The best balance is with the 4" barrel - best of any medium framed revolver. If the trigger is worn in, it can be very smooth.
 
25 five rounds? With a six shot cylinder, wouldn't 24 or 30 have made more sense?:neener:
That right hand group looks just a bit bigger than a quarter - and that is far edge to far edge.
 
I would check with SOG to see if that's not a misprint. M14s are not something usually seen on the surplus market.
 
I would check with SOG to see if that's not a misprint.
Well now just what other 6" adjustable sight S&W would it be?

(Yes there are a few but they'd be an even better value.)

The 6" K-38 rode in the holsters of quite a few police departments.
LAPD is one that comes to mind.
 
Here in North-east Pa, you cant' touch a K frame for under $300, even if it's in pieces. Anything descent starts at$350. Anything closely resembling "collectable", whatever that means, start at $400. No boxes or papers.
kid
 
They may be from a from a club or police outfit. At that price they would be very well worn and not pretty but as long as nothing was broken they would be worth that much as shooters.
 
The S&W Model 14 Revolver

Hello phoglund
The Model 14 was originally made to become a revolver named the masterpiece. It was made with an anti back lash trigger stop, 6" narrow ribbed barrel, Later changed to a wider one, Micro click target sights, A quick draw Baughman front sight that allowed easier daily side arm carry and in the early 60's was offered with Large Target style grips. prior to this the service style Magna grips were used. This revolver was made to weigh in at the same weight as the other Masterpiece series revolver's which consisted of the K-22 & K-32. The weight issue was done to make all of the revolver's in the Masterpiece Target revolver series feel the same whether you were shooting a .22 caliber or the .38 caliber with more recoil. This allowed L.E.O.'s a way of getting most of there practice with the Non recoiling .22 ammo or the mild .32 S&W Long, then could switch to the harder recoil of the .38 without changing their ten ring scores as they all weighed in about the same. The model 14 had very few changes other than the dash series changes we see in most other S&W revolver's. It was offered originally in a 6" version and later a 8-3/8" model. There was how ever a 4" Barrel bull barrel offered as a special order gun. In 1965 Dayton Outdoor Sports of Dayton, Ohio Placed a special order of model 14's to have 4" Heavy Bull Barrel's, Baughman quick draw front sight's, finishes of Blued or Nickel were available along with choice of grips, and trigger and hammer widths. This was prior to S&W Having any custom shop so it must have been a real challenge keeping all the Dayton revolver's in sequence as far as serial number's went as S&W normally pre stamps serials in frame's before they are completed, and does not follow any serial sequences on the production line where these were made. The order was filled by completing these revolver's and placing them in the S&W safe for shipping when all the serials were complete for each of the 4 block series. This order took Three years to complete, and the one shown was made in 1966. There was a total of 2038 of them made over the four year span. I have Spoke a few months ago with S&W's historian Mr. Roy Jinks that this gun is one of the original Dayton revolver's made in the more rare Nickel finish, target grips, and narrow trigger and hammer and was shipped in 1966 and a letter is in the process now on it as well. It is kind of neat as this model 14-2 shares the same barrel length and Baughman quick draw front sight only originally found on the model 15's and this was the only thing that previously set the two models apart. The 4" Bull Barrel was never offered on any model 14's before or since and this one is very accurate.I find it equally interesting that the frame where the barrel threads into is also larger in diameter than any other model 14 or 15 to accept the massive bull barrel and it is perfectly balanced with this combination. I am fond of the model 14 and they will certainly grow in collector value over time, like some of their counter parts have. Regards, Hammerdown
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This allowed L.E.O.'s a way of getting most of there practice with the Non recoiling .22 ammo or the mild .32 S&W Long, then could switch to the harder recoil of the .38 without changing their ten ring scores as they all weighed in about the same.
The weight was made equal for the 3 gun set of bulleye shooting, not for LEO practice.
 
Majic
The weight was made equal for the 3 gun set of bulleye shooting, not for LEO practice.
Majic

Hello Majic
Great to hear from you, hows the Virginia heat treating you? Moving on here
I Guess that would depend on what LEO's we speak of, Geographic location, and time frame. My Father was an LEO in the Late 50's To Mid 60's and his department did there Practice with Model 14's and 15's On Bulls eye style target's both rapid and slow fire. That is where I got that from, as he explained the weight issue, and recoil in the Masterpiece series. He also told me his department did not use the B-27 style man figure targets, as the Range master was looking for more accuracy in his duty officers,and detectives rather than shooter's that could leave them in a mass style target, they were pushed a little more to be tight grouping shooters.This was also a time when there was alot of Organized crime issues, Armed robberys, and racial wars were common in the area he worked, and they had some sidearms that were not all that Popular with other agencies.One weapon that sticks in my mind as I remember the Range demonstration was a short barreled Double barrel shotgun. It was a 20 Gague and the barrels were Very short. It was Made by the Ithaca Gun Company, and it had "Auto Burglar" inscribed in the sideplate's instead of their Popular Bird dog and grouse-Pheasent scene that other double barrels had. It also had a custom Ithaca made Black leather holster that either could be belt worn or squad car mounted. It had sling swivels in the forend and stock with a webbed sling that was black as well. I was 7 Years old when they shot it at the Police range into a cardboard backed piece with 000 Buck shot at 12 paces. VERY IMPRESSIVE weapon, and worth a small fortune today. I have no idea what became of it, but it was kept in the department property room, that my Father ran and I remember seeing it often there and one had to sign it out to use it or carry with them on duty. I remember that all the squad cars were equipped with Ithaca Model 37 pump shot guns as well, and they sat in the Middle of the front seat mounted with a quick detach bracket on the dash. A Few Years back my Father gave me his off Duty wallet police Badge,His original Hand gun Carry Permit from the 50's and a pocket flap pin he was awarded for shooting a high score that reads "Revolver Expert" and it has a Ten-Ring Bullseye in the center of it.while he on the force he carried a Nickel model 15 daily as it Had a 4" barrel, but he also had and practiced with a Model 14 that had a 6" Barrel and the Baughman quick draw front sight.He purchased a model 10 with a rare 5" barrel as well but Sadly he sold off these revolver's in the Mid 70's and I would Pay a premium to own any of them if I could ever find them.Having his original Pistol permit I have all the serial numb er's in the event, I ever see one again. Funny part is in a recent visit to his place, I carried along the Dayton Revolver shown above. he quickly made the mistake of calling it a model 15, as he saw the 4" barrel and Baughman sights just like a 15 has.He then said it has a Bull barrel and he had not seen a model 15 with a Bull Barrel, so I told him it was a special order Dayton revolver from the mid 60's. He did fire it and can still get them in the Ten ring at 75 Years old, and I Noticed his face light up while doing so as I am sure it brought back old memories of day's gone by, when he was a Policeman and Practiced on the Range every Saturday Morning with his comrades. When we finished he said it was Too Bad they did not make Many Dayton revolver's as he would have carried it when he was a policeman and enjoyed the balance and accuracy of the 4" Bull Barrel. He went on to say he had not fired a bull barrel revolver but always figured they would be nose Heavy because they looked that way and we enjoyed the shooting all afternoon. Regards, Hammerdown
 
Don't beat yourself over it. They show up time and again. Sometimes they are mod 64's. Picked up 4 of them. Sometimes they will be something else, but they will show up again. Next time pick up a few of the gooder one's and let us know what you got. Finding them is most of the fun anyway.
kid
 
That was a good price but remember next time to just do it!

I picked up my Model 15-4 for $220 about 8 months ago and would buy another one in a minute. Great shooting guns and darn fun. Don't miss the next one in 14 or 15. :cool:
 
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