S&W Sigma .380 - better than a Bryco?

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If someone had a Bennie burning a hole in their pocket and could exchange it for a Sigma .380,would he be a damned fool to do so?I have a SIG 230 and a Walther PPK/S for reliable and stylish .380s ,though I CCW neither, and no real need for it but I'm sure I could justify it somehow.Does S&W still do work on these things if/when it fails?I've had outstanding dealings with their customer service so far but might not want to push my luck if it's _that_ bad!
 
The only Sigma .380 I've seen was a total POS. Not sure if that was one of the early bad ones, or the newer (supposedly) not so bad ones.

Mike
 
The one I had was so so....Ive seen others that ran fine. The design is what sucks......any defensive gun that requires two hands to drop the mag isnt really a defensive gun to begin with :D :D
As far as Bryco Vs Sigma 380........get a Makarov or an FEG!
Shoot well.
 
The one I have is only good for a paper weight..has never fired a full mag without a jam. Never tried to sell it because it is junk.
 
A friend of mine brought me one of these because he couldn't figure out how to disassemble it. Neither could I. After asking around, I found out that they're not designed to be taken apart. S&W estimates a total service-life of ~2400 rounds, during which the gun is not meant to be stripped or cleaned ("no user-servicable parts").

It's basically a disposable gun. Better than a Bryco? Perhaps. He never had any problems with it. Still...I'd save up and get something that's meant to last.
 
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3623/is_199509/ai_n8729217

A google search with the terms "1995 sw380" yielded this as the first link. Of course, remembering the model number and the year when it came out helps a bit. ;)

I played with both the .380 and the slightly upsized 9mm version. Didn't get to shoot either one. IIRC, in order to meet a price point they decided to use a zinc slide-- hence the limited lifespan. Keep in mind that at the time, it was as small as anyone could get a .380 and still have it work (somewhat) reliably. Also, this was (just) before the big CCW reform/boom. There was no large (for the gun world) market for high-dollar pocket CCW pistols. In order to successfully market the pistol, they had to try and tap into some of Jennings/Bryco/Raven/etc's customer base. At the time, if you wanted something in production that didn't weigh a ton (like the PPKs) or was actually small enough to fit in a pocket holster (unlike the SiG P230 and later P232) and was .380 caliber or larger then your options were limited. Heh. Actually, they were nonexistant.

When the SW380 and the SW9M came out (this all from memory, I stand to be corrected):

There was no Kel-Tec .32, much less a Kel-Tec .380. The P11 was much, much larger.

There was no Beretta .32. Unless you wanted a .25acp single-action pocket pistol (950), the only thing Beretta had to offer was the model 21a in .22lr.

The Colt Mustang/Gov't .380s had been discontinued for awhile, weren't easy to find and were single-action. (Great for a belt gun, for a pocket gun-- not so much.) Needless to say, the Pony and Pocket 9 didn't exist.

The Seecamp .380 also didn't exist.

North American Arms only made .22 mini-revolvers. Their .32 and .380 autos didn't exist.

Of course, the "J"-frame magnums had just come out, but they were all-steel at this point. The 442 (and 642) existed, but they were revolvers. Also, in 1995, the 442-1 revision hadn't been released. Before the -1s, the official word from S&W was no +P loads. I seem to recall a brisk trade in the 125-grain Nyclad JHPs, since they were the only non-+P .38s that had any reputation at all for expansion from a snubby. Regardless, autoloaders were all the rage. A 6-round .380 auto (excuse me...a 6+1 round .380 auto) was more desirable than a 5-round .38 special. To some people anyway.

Damn kids. Back in my day, we didn't have convienient CCWs. I had to carry a Colt's Walker! Up hill! Both ways! Buck naked in the snow! And we liked it! (Of course, that may have just been me. TMI?)
 
Mine was not much better than a Bryco. Lots of jams and cheap construction, I'd be embarrassed to be S&W and put their logo on it. IIRC, it can be stripped and is supplied with a specail tool to do so. For $100, take your chances, these guns do book at a much higher price too I think.
 
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