SAA Carry Holster

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BobWright said:
As to fanning, note that it is very hard on the cylinder slots as the rapid rotation of the cylinder slams those notches against the locking bolt. This will lead to elongation of those slots.

Many, many years ago quick draw enthusiasts had their cylinders case hardened to minimize that damage. Fine as long as blanks only were used, which they did. But a cylinder so hardened could burst using full power ammunition.

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You live once! a $400 1873 as a training tool to learn how to cowboy is priceless!
 
I doubt cowboys did much fanning. Original colts had mighty strong springs.

There are plenty of folks that do it now, and tune guns specifically for it. Might be, you could look into it and it's be as simple as replacing the bolt with one that takes all the wear instead of wearing the cylinder notches and frame slot.
 
Old timey cowboys knew about slip hammering, they might have heard about fanning but I doubt ever used by a fight winner :) The fanning deal started being used in the 1950s "Fast Draw" revivals after they found it would get off a faster first shot with wax bullets or blanks with the style they tried at the time. Maybe a couple 1940s "B" movies had it too .
 
Gordon said:
Old timey cowboys knew about slip hammering, they might have heard about fanning but I doubt ever used by a fight winner :) The fanning deal started being used in the 1950s "Fast Draw" revivals after they found it would get off a faster first shot with wax bullets or blanks with the style they tried at the time. Maybe a couple 1940s "B" movies had it too .
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I’m try that Slip Hammering
 
Gordon said:
Old timey cowboys knew about slip hammering, they might have heard about fanning but I doubt ever used by a fight winner :) The fanning deal started being used in the 1950s "Fast Draw" revivals after they found it would get off a faster first shot with wax bullets or blanks with the style they tried at the time. Maybe a couple 1940s "B" movies had it too .
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anybody got a video on Slip Hammering?

Can’t find any
 
BobWright said:
As deeply as those revolvers sit in the holster, I wonder why you have those thongs on them.

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I kinda like the idea, Lets say I was fishing in the woods and a Black Bear was chasing me. I would not want it to fall out

yes, have a backup gun
 
Mark_Mark said:
I kinda like the idea, Lets say I was fishing in the woods and a Black Bear was chasing me. I would not want it to fall out

yes, have a backup gun
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And while he's chasing you, you're going to be disengaging that thong from the hammer? Or maybe from the front sight?

A snap strap is much more positive and more sure of release. But those holsters should retain your gun firmly without any retention device.

Bob Wright
 
BobWright said:
And while he's chasing you, you're going to be disengaging that thong from the hammer? Or maybe from the front sight?

A snap strap is much more positive and more sure of release. But those holsters should retain your gun firmly without any retention device.

Bob Wright
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been practicing my gun spinning, I don’t know why I didn’t buy more cowboy guns earlier.
 
If anyone is serious about carrying a single action for self defense, please forget about the Hollywood crap. Spinning or twirling a SA is playing around. Likewise, fanning a SA is hard on the lock work and hard to control with serious ammunition.

And please don't bring up Bob Munden. He was a gifted man with incredible reflexes and exceptional hand to eye coordination who spent more hours than most of us have left mastering his craft. He was called a 'trick shot' because very few people could pull of half of the things he did.

If you are serious about carrying a SA you need to spend every chance you get practicing. Drawing from you intended carry position, safely manipulating the hammer as you bring it to full cock, then hitting what you're aiming at as quickly as you can rather than wasting time, ammo, and gun parts playing like a Hollywood hero.

I personally don't think reloading a SA under stress (being shot at) is a necessary skill as you will probably be taken out while your fumbling getting you ammo out one round at a time, or trying to load with 5 or 6 loose rounds in your hand. Oh, and don't forget the time it takes to empty the fired cases out of your SA. Best you be well practiced and solve the problem with your first five or six rounds.

As a retired LEO who spent my last 6 years with the department as their chief firearms instructor a cannot in good conscience recommend carrying a SA revolver as your primary self defense firearm. In my later years, because I have been a life long student of the history of the West, I own, shoot, and love single action revolvers. I shoot mine loaded with black powder, to the performance level of the original ammunition. Believe me, nobody in the old days fanned a 45 Colt with full power loads. Even if it didn't wreck your hand the chances of you hitting anything as you emptied you 5 rounds would have been a matter of pure luck. Not something to bet your life on.

Dave
 
Dave T said:
If anyone is serious about carrying a single action for self defense, please forget about the Hollywood crap. Spinning or twirling a SA is playing around. Likewise, fanning a SA is hard on the lock work and hard to control with serious ammunition.

And please don't bring up Bob Munden. He was a gifted man with incredible reflexes and exceptional hand to eye coordination who spent more hours than most of us have left mastering his craft. He was called a 'trick shot' because very few people could pull of half of the things he did.

If you are serious about carrying a SA you need to spend every chance you get practicing. Drawing from you intended carry position, safely manipulating the hammer as you bring it to full cock, then hitting what you're aiming at as quickly as you can rather than wasting time, ammo, and gun parts playing like a Hollywood hero.

I personally don't think reloading a SA under stress (being shot at) is a necessary skill as you will probably be taken out while your fumbling getting you ammo out one round at a time, or trying to load with 5 or 6 loose rounds in your hand. Oh, and don't forget the time it takes to empty the fired cases out of your SA. Best you be well practiced and solve the problem with your first five or six rounds.

As a retired LEO who spent my last 6 years with the department as their chief firearms instructor a cannot in good conscience recommend carrying a SA revolver as your primary self defense firearm. In my later years, because I have been a life long student of the history of the West, I own, shoot, and love single action revolvers. I shoot mine loaded with black powder, to the performance level of the original ammunition. Believe me, nobody in the old days fanned a 45 Colt with full power loads. Even if it didn't wreck your hand the chances of you hitting anything as you emptied you 5 rounds would have been a matter of pure luck. Not something to bet your life on.

Dave
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Wow! buzz kill
 
I can reload a single action very fast. There a secret to reloading with no fumbling, missed chambers, or dropped cartridges. It's called practice.

Shoot a single action as you're primary arm you get good with it. The single six has long been my primary 22.
 
Yes... buzz kill. Defense of your lives and your loved one’s lives is a very serious matter. Instead of goofing off twirling and spinning your SAA, take it from someone who carries one (.22LR)... practice your drawstroke, target acquisition, and *hammer manipulation*. Your hammer, and *your control of it* is absolutely vital to proper use of a SAA. I would personally advise learning and practicing the Mozambique or, better yet; pretend your a sniper.... one and done.

Those who disagree... don’t forget... we’re dealing with a platform that has 5/6 shots with what amounts to *no reload* under pressure or time constraints. Albeit said platform is extraordinarily robust and capable of harnessing some of the absolute best and most renowned of men/beast/fight stopping cartridges known to humankind.


I would also honestly recommend a large blade, ***and the instruction and skill to employ it***. Otherwise, leave Le Machete at the house.

Above all, I’d avoid going to bars, hostels, adultery, association with unsavory sorts, and possession of common sense.
 
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ontarget said:
SA is anything other than an 1873 Colt.
I will consider it ok to call the Colt clones SAAs as well.
All others are just SAs.
JMHO YMMV.
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I add the “A” because it’s too much hassle to go for “SAA’s and SA’s XXXXXXXX” when most folk are perfectly understanding and content with “SAA”... kinda like the only *real* 1911 Gov’t is one of military specifications, but yet... how many manufacturers produce a “1911 Gov’t” ? It’s a wasted technicality.

I personally also tend to specify which in my comments and questions
 
Mr. Mosin said:
I add the “A” because it’s too much hassle to go for “SAA’s and SA’s XXXXXXXX” when most folk are perfectly understanding and content with “SAA”... kinda like the only *real* 1911 Gov’t is one of military specifications, but yet... how many manufacturers produce a “1911 Gov’t” ? It’s a wasted technicality.

I personally also tend to specify which in my comments and questions
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So, by that logic, if I call a Schofield an SAA everyone will know what I mean? After all, it's a Single Action, just like an 1873 Colt. Right?
I don't think the general use of SA and SAA are the same as the accepted general use of 1911.
Yeah, I know, magazine/clip aren't the same but we all know what is being referred to.
If you are talking about a Blackhawk and just call it an SAA, most of us will assume you are referring to an 1873 pattern revolver.
Again JMHO.
 
ontarget said:
So, by that logic, if I call a Schofield an SAA everyone will know what I mean? After all, it's a Single Action, just like an 1873 Colt. Right?
I don't think the general use of SA and SAA are the same as the accepted general use of 1911.
Yeah, I know, magazine/clip aren't the same but we all know what is being referred to.
If you are talking about a Blackhawk and just call it an SAA, most of us will assume you are referring to an 1873 pattern revolver.
Again JMHO.
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I kinda agree. Someone says "SAA", I think of an 1873 and it's clones. Someone says "Blackhawk", I know it's an SA revolver. I think most of us tend to elaborate on what we're talking about to avoid confusion anyways. If someone's talking about a 1911 in 9mm, I'm sure they'll mention it's in 9mm so that the topic is on point.
 
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