"Saddle ring carbine" terminology

[Malamute]

RE: the last 3 posts, in military use, the over the shoulder sling belt wasnt the only thing used to carry the gun, they werent left to flop around. They had a "socket" or boot that was what we might call a bikini scabbard or holster. It was a short tube, open on both ends, and secured the gun to the saddle on the right rear side so it didnt flop around. The carbine could be pulled easily while riding, or if the horse was shot and went down.

I poached this pic from elsewhere.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/rebel727/CWSTUFF/saddle_zps14e4bed2.jpg

Google image search for carbine socket,

https://www.google.com/search?q=US+cavalry+carbine+socket&hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&oq=&gs_l=

 

[lysanderxiii]

Well, the regular old sling was used increasingly as time went on and "riding into battle" was replaced by "riding to the battle"....

 

[Kleanbore]

Regardless of terminology, it would certainly not be even remotely reasonable to secure a carbine or musketoon to anything cinched to the mount of a hunter, scout, dragoon, or cavalryman.

 

[Corpral_Agarn]

Some pretty good info/discussion on this thread!

So I did some asking around and it seems that my Great Grandfather (quite the horseman and cattle rancher, in his time) was known to take his rifle with him sometimes on horse back. Usually, he only carried an old Colt Double Action but when he did ride with his rifle, he usually carried it in his hand and/or across the saddle bow.

The only time he did this was when he was hunting (might need the rifle in a hurry) or when he was visiting folks that could have been trouble (might need the rifle in a hurry).

It is my understanding that he had a scabbard but used it very rarely and no mention was made of the saddle ring.

Just thought I would throw that in.

 

[Armybrat]

Corpral_Agarn, here is a "south of the border" Winchester 1894 SRC:



My late Dad bought it from an old gentleman who ran a coin shop in Monterrey, Mexico during the 1950s & '60s. The old fellow was somewhere in his 70s, but we didn't pry that much.

He said he was in Carranza's army during the 1914 revolution and carried this carbine, while his twin brother rode for Villa. Whether any of that is really true, I don't know for sure, but my dad had been a pretty good customer of his for several years as he was building up his coin collection.

Anyway, this .30-30 carbine was made in 1914, and is still has a tight action & good bore - although almost all the finish is gone.

 

[Onmilo]

How to keep a saddle ring from rattling.


I'm still looking for the picture I have of rifles hung by loop and ring on the saddle horns

 

[Armybrat]

Is that an Uberti?

 

[Malamute]

How to keep a saddle ring from rattling.

I just removed mine from the 86 carbine. The couple of old 94's (so-called SRC's) I've had already had them removed.

 

[Onmilo]

Is that an Uberti?

Yup.

 

[Onmilo]

I just removed mine from the 86 carbine. The couple of old 94's (so-called SRC's) I've had already had them removed.

For what I do with mine, which is hanging the rifle off a tree limb or hook using a loop of paracord shell, you can do the same thing using just the staple.

 

[Malamute]

I put slings on all mine, so the ring is pretty much redundant. Receiver sights also seem to want to be right about where the ring stud is on 94's, at least with the sights I use most (Lyman 56's).