Safe Stolen

[Blue Line]

Here's a news story regarding a guys stolen guns you may find interesting.
http://www.nbc-2.com/story/21926326/thieves-make-off-with-1500-pound-gun-safe

 

[MErl]

wonder if it was bolted down.

"To flip it end for end, it would have taken four to five people to do what they did," Olding said.

someone comes by with heavy construction equipment there aint much you can do though

 

[MagnunJoe]

Thanks to liberal politicians who have made guns a hot commodity. Scum breaks into a home now & the first thing they look 4 are guns.

 

[mgmorden]

Thanks to liberal politicians who have made guns a hot commodity.

Somehow I doubt that the stolen goods market is worried about what laws the politicians pass.

 

[BSA1]

Thanks to liberal politicians who have made guns a hot commodity. Scum breaks into a home now & the first thing they look 4 are guns.

Politicans have nothing to do with it. Guns along with money, jewerly, tools and electronics have always been the main target of thieves as they are easily fenced.
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Republicans R not perfect, but they will let U keep more of your money, & all of your guns!!!

Wanna bet?

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/gun-background-checks-deal-89856.html

 

[SunnySlopes]

We spoke with the victim who thinks the robbers may be someone he knows.

99.9% of the time it is a friend, or friend of a friend, of the gunowner. I've even known of family members stealing from family.

There's more to this story.

 

[jon_in_wv]

Somehow I doubt that the stolen goods market is worried about what laws the politicians pass.

You don't think if guns are more rare and expensive they become more valuable to a burgler? I would have to disagree with that premise.

 

[X-Rap]

I think the lack of prosecution of gun related crimes have enboldened criminals. Combined with todays lucrative market criminals are targeting guns more than in the past.

 

[heeler]

Proof right here that even a really heavy gun safe should be bolted down.
From my experience of three home burglaries the "99.9%" statement that it was a friend or a friend of a friend does not hold water at all.
Perhaps so in this poor guys case it is true though.

 

[Agsalaska]

Happened to my Uncle in 1995. I have told this story on here before. He had a party in his barn on a Friday night that had some people at it he did not know. He left on Saturday to take a horse to College Station. When he got back Sunday someone had broken into his barn and stolen his safes. He could see what looked like pallet dolly tracks in a thin layer of mud on the cement. He had, still has, a lady who rents a trailer on the edge of his farm. They use the same gate. His gate was malfunctioning and the timer would not always close it 30 seconds after opening it. She came in, or left, that Saturday and the gate to the farm stayed open. The perfect set of circumstances and all of our families guns going back over 100 years are now gone.

 

[scaatylobo]

Not bolted

it appears that it was not bolted down AND possible they used a 'comealong' or other means to pull it out.

Dragging a safe that heavy,or flipping it would have taken VERY strong men.

I believe in bolting um down - high end alarm system - cameras and nosy neighbors who are TOLD/asked/begged to call 9/11 if they see anything "funny".

Also a reward incentive to any PRIOR to calling in the troops is a worthy system.

Might cost you a case of beer or such,but pays off in the end.

 

[Vurtle]

I use ball bearings to move my safe by myself. Not hard at all.

 

[SunnySlopes]

it appears that it was not bolted down

A safe like that is no more than a real heavy gun case. But given the narrative of the crime, it sounds like the criminals would have had time to cut into the safe (with circular saw and masonry blades, for example) and steal the guns sans safe.

But the way they did it? End over end? Those poor guns.

 

[r1derbike]

I recently bolted my safe to the concrete slab, and attached the upper to studs. I couldn't afford a 4 to 7 thousand dollar safe, bud did the best I could do.

I still don't feel comfortable.

 

[heeler]

They obviously did not have cutting equipment which is why they worked their butts off to haul away the safe.

 

[SunnySlopes]

They obviously did not have cutting equipment which is why they worked their butts off to haul away the safe.

All they needed was a circular saw and masonry blades. The vast majority of Harry Homeowner safes have much thinner steel on the sides than in the front. All they had to do was to cut out a hole in the side.

 

[SunnySlopes]

I recently bolted my safe to the concrete slab, and attached the upper to studs.

The kinds of safes people like you and I would own aren't going to keep a determined professional from stealing our stuff. My safe will maybe protect me from a smash and grab punk, the kind of person who breaks into a random house looking for anything of value.

But if I'm in the habit of showing off my guns to acquaintances, there's a chance somebody might break in determined to get my collection. That's where it gets dicey.

A friend of mine sells gun safes. He sold me my gun safe. He said that 99% of gun thefts are perpetrated by friends and acquantances of the gun owner.

In the OP, is anyone seriously going to suggest that those thieves showed up at that house, at random, with the traffic cones, etc? Nonsense.

 

[heeler]

IF THEY had the equipment.........
And we dont really know what thickness of steel walls that safe had.
At 1500 pounds it was either very large or had much thicker steel than your typical 12 gauge gun safe.
For all we know it might have been a Fort Knox with the upgraded 1/4 steel.
Either way they did steal it instead of using tools at the home.

 

[GlowinPontiac]

Nothing is theft proof. Even bolted down with enough torque it will come loose.

These guys shut down the whole road to keep witnesses away. They knew what they were doing. If it was bolted down they probably would have brought an electric jackhammer and gotten it out in a few minutes.

 

[TRX]

> Proof right here that even a really heavy gun safe should be bolted down.

Sure, unless you live in a rental where you might not have that option. And if you live in a wood framed house, my pinch bar will laugh at any kind of anchor you can run into a 2x4 or 2x6.

Sometimes you have to settle for a safe and maybe some insurance coverage. Or move, I guess.

 

[jmace57]

Don't worry about it. When they do their background check to transfer the guns, they'll get caught....right?

 

[jon_in_wv]

I"m building mine into a wall. They will have one heck of a time getting it out with demolishing the whole wall.

 

[leprechaun50]

I"m building mine into a wall. They will have one heck of a time getting it out with demolishing the whole wall.

Its been done before.

 

[SunnySlopes]

I"m building mine into a wall. They will have one heck of a time getting it out with demolishing the whole wall

I remember reading about some guys who did just that. They wrapped a heavy duty logging chain around the safe and drove it through the wall with a truck.

This stuff gets weird.

 

[Teachu2]

I've seen an instance where the damage to the house was more expensive than the loss of the safe and contents!