savage 24's

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No Kurt.

I only ever fired .223 handloads of 55 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip. It never saw a factory round through it.


I had no problem with the accuracy of the rifle barrel. My criticism was much more about how it was a too heavy for what it offered, and the design of the stock sucked to use it as a shotgun.


Buckshot? Why would I shoot buckshot through it? And slugs, hell no. I'm no masochist. It was a field gun for me, suitable for small game up to the size of a turkey or coyote. It didn't pattern #6 well at all. I tried #4 shot, not buck, but shot, and that didn't do well either. I thought it might make a nice predator or turkey gun. I could never make it group well.


My father in law has an older 24 in .222 and 20 gauge. THAT was a nice combo gun. That new 24F was abysmal. I was happy to be able to sell it off. I've never regretted it.
 
I have a 24V , 357 over a 20 ga. Really nice wood and finish. Best part, I got it at Walmart for $125. I think they should have rechecked thier price instead of checking my ticket at the door.
 
In reply #22 I mentioned I also have the .357 over 20 gauge and it is a beautiful combo gun...accurate (1/2 inch groups at 50 yards with 160-170 grain FMJ bullets) and fairly rare these days!
 
I'm a fan, having a .22/.410 and a .22mag/20. I find them to be great field guns; they're my preferred "squirrel getters." Both are early 60's vintage. I'm no expert, but in my opinion, the "sweet spot" in the history of the 24s is the early 60s. Many of the guns from that era have two important features to me: the barrels are brazed together for their full length, making them stiffer, and the rimfire barrel on top is grooved for scope rings. My .22mag/20 was built with the barrel selector in the hammer; the .22/.410 had a side selector, but I removed it and replaced it with the hammer selector. Both now wear low power variable Leupold scopes mounted in BKL unitized bases. The rimfires are very accurate, and the shotguns pattern "well enough."

What happened to Savage, and why aren't they making the 24s any more? Too little market. Many shooters these days seem to gravitate to semi-autos, or "tacticool" guns. And the 24 is and was ever only popular with a fairly small segment. So they quit making them. I didn't like the newer guns, anyway. As others have said, too heavy, and less "refined" (if I can say that about a utilitarian tool) than the older guns. Now, part of the fun is "the hunt," and satisfaction that comes from finding one you really like.

Sorry; mine aren't for sale!
 
I would LOVE to have a .22 mag / 20 ga. I do have the .22lr / 20 ga, and its the perfect squirrel & rabbit gun. The .22 mag one would fill more of a survival gun role.
 
Here's a pic of my 24E-DL .22mag/20. Yes, the .22mag is overkill for squirrels, but it's still my preferred "squirrel getter."

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I have three of them all old ones (no serial#) in good shape. the 22 barrels are tack drivers and the shotgun barrels are good but the first one needs the crown fixed. Love them all.
22 over 410
22mag over 410
22 over 20 guage
 
Really? A .357 Magnum over 20 gauge?


That sounds like a really nice short woods gun.
They not only made the standard model in .357, they also made the short Camper's Companion in .357 over .22, but very few. I've seen two in 30 years of looking...neither for sale.

I wish I could find one. That would be one gun I wouldn't mind paying way too much for, or trading a couple of other good guns for......
 
What happened to Savage, and why aren't they making the 24s any more? Too little market. Many shooters these days seem to gravitate to semi-autos, or "tacticool" guns. And the 24 is and was ever only popular with a fairly small segment. So they quit making them. I didn't like the newer guns, anyway. As others have said, too heavy, and less "refined" (if I can say that about a utilitarian tool) than the older guns. Now, part of the fun is "the hunt," and satisfaction that comes from finding one you really like.
If they made them today, they'd probably have to sell for $700+, and there just wouldn't be many who'd pony up for them.
 
They not only made the standard model in .357, they also made the short Camper's Companion in .357 over .22, but very few. I've seen two in 30 years of looking...neither for sale.

I wish I could find one. That would be one gun I wouldn't mind paying way too much for, or trading a couple of other good guns for......
357 over 22? Two rifle barrels?
 
I don't think that combo exists...I believe Elmer is referring to the .357 Magnum/20 gauge 24V
 
I don't think that combo exists...I believe Elmer is referring to the .357 Magnum/20 gauge 24V
So do I, but I thought I'd ask. You never know.

I have a full size 24V 357/20 and a 24C 22/20 Camper's Companion, but have never heard of a 24C in 357/20. But anything is possible with 24s.
 
I don't think that combo exists...I believe Elmer is referring to the .357 Magnum/20 gauge 24V
Nope. I am referring to the 24C 20", Campers Companion, .357 over 20 guage.

Very rare, and the ones I've seen were electroless nickel as well.

I would love to pay too much for one of those.....
 
If they made them today, they'd probably have to sell for $700+, and there just wouldn't be many who'd pony up for them.

I see no reason to believe the cost should be that high to produce the model 24 . Particularly with the ability to re-design the gun for use with modern materials and manufacturing techniques. We are talking about a rather simple ,two barrel , single shot design firearm. If the cost of manufacturing that gun today is more than $150-$200 it is because no one wants to take a chance on selling the volume needed to produce it at that cost level. Frankly, I think it could be done for less than that, and done right as well.

Savage - give me a place to stay, a desk & access , a couple meals a day, and I will give you 4 months of my time to help you make it happen.

they also made the short Camper's Companion in .357 over .22

I think it was the typo that natman was refering to with a ?? the .22 rather than 20ga. for the lower barrel.
 
I am now ruined by the talk above of a .357 over 20. Man I would like one. I find the Savage 24's to be some of the coolest guns out there. And now I hear that there is one out there with a rifle top in the caliber of my only revolver.
 
I see no reason to believe the cost should be that high to produce the model 24 . Particularly with the ability to re-design the gun for use with modern materials and manufacturing techniques. We are talking about a rather simple ,two barrel , single shot design firearm. If the cost of manufacturing that gun today is more than $150-$200 it is because no one wants to take a chance on selling the volume needed to produce it at that cost level. Frankly, I think it could be done for less than that, and done right as well.

Making a two barrel gun with the barrels regulated to shoot close to the same spot is harder than it would seem. If O/U's were so cheap and easy to make, we'd see lots of them on the market, yet we don't.

I think it was the typo that natman was refering to with a ?? the .22 rather than 20ga. for the lower barrel.

Ahh.... I see. Oops... I meant .357 over 20 gauge.

Savage - give me a place to stay, a desk & access , a couple meals a day, and I will give you 4 months of my time to help you make it happen.

I hope they take you up on your offer....
 
I had a 24F in .223/12 gauge.

I sold it.


It was too heavy as a decent field gun, even with the synthetic stock. And I thought it had a terrible stock design for a shotgun. If I put a scope on it nice enough to take advantage of the .223's range, it made an awkward shotgun. And I never liked how it shot as a 12 gauge shotgun. It just beat the hell out of me. I've got a single shot turkey gun that weighs less than 6 pounds, and it wasn't as bad on me as the Savage was.


I've got an earlier model 24, a .22 rimfire/.410, and I just love it.

But while the 24F .223/12 gauge is a nice idea, it seemed to fail in execution.
I agree, Ken. I've still got my 24F .223/12ga. Acquired it new in the late '90s. Also have a 24V .223/20ga. that I bought new in the '83 timeframe.

The two are like night and day. The older 24V has a hardwood rifle-type stock with a monte-carlo that actually lets you use a scope with good cheek weld. In addition, both bores are shiny, well-finished and easy to keep clean. The whole gun shows a higher degree of finish than the 24F, but still, nothing spectacular. No screw-in choke though.

The newer 24F has a synthetic stock with a lot of drop. It's very difficult to use with a scope. Recoil with a heavy shotgun load will pivot the gun up and back until the scope hits your forehead. I still bear the scars.

Both bores on the 24F are rough and difficult to clean, though the .223 barrel has shot some groups around 1 MOA with handloads and a scope. When I first got the gun, I found that brass fired in it was difficult to reload and, as reloads, delivered poor accuracy. Finally determined it had an out-of-round chamber. Savage replaced the barrels under warranty but ignored my request for finished bores. The 24F does have screw-in chokes, however.

Bad thing about both guns is that the shot barrel is not regulated to hit where the rifle sights line up. I guess it's not reasonable to expect that it would be. Shooting clay birds with these guns takes some getting used to. Even then you often get just a piece of the bird. I know little about shotgun patterning, but what I've tried with the 24F shows an uneven pattern with large holes.
Bob
 
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The Savage 24 was essentially "remade" as the Savage 42. Very similar design to the 24 but remade with polymer materials.
 
dbalthrop...which model are you referring to?
The 24V models had blued barrels and the receivers were color case hardened...stocks were walnut. (at least that's how my 24V .357Mag/20 gauge and .30-30/20 gauge are configured)
 
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