Savage .308 Win Build with StraightJacket

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steven58

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Behold,
the Lightweight Precision Rifle! or as I like to call it "the sewer pipe":evil:

Back in January, I decided to build a .308 Win. precision rifle based on the Teludyne StraighJacket system http://www.teludynetech.com/. My goal was to create a very accurate and relatively light weight rifle with improved consistency in long strings of fire and across widely varying ambient temperatures.

I started with a Savage left hand stainless short action with a light accu-trigger.
I added a Criterion stainless sporter weight match grade barrel, a milled recoil lug and a bolt lift kit.

The stock is a laminate take off from a Savage VLP I got second hand.

Scope is a Vortex Viper PST 4-16 X 50 FFP with mil reticle and mil turrets. Rings are Vortex premium and the bases are Nightforce 20 moa 2 piece. I used the 2 piece instead of the one piece for ease of loading the blind single stack magazine.

Bipod is an Atlas V8 that attaches to a small picattiny rail that replaced the front swivel. It has a horizontal hole at 6 o'clock to attach a sling QD. Unfortunately, I lost track of the brand.

The action and barrel are full length bedded with Devcon 10110 with the tang floated. All up the rifle weighs in at 13 lbs.

Before I get into how it shoots, please keep in mind that I am at best a mediocre shot. All groups were fired off of front and rear sandbags on a heavy solid bench.

Prior to sending the rifle to Teludyne I shot a reference group; 6 rounds of Federal Gold Medal Match 168 gr. SMK went into .65" at 100 yd. with the group slightly elongated on the vertical axis. As it was a match grade barrel I didn't expect any improvement in accuracy.

After Straightjacketing and bedding the same ammo grouped 6 rounds into .45" at 100 yd. The muzzle brake worked well reducing the perceived recoil to what my daughter's .243 Tika feels like.

I then fired a 50 round group. I tried as best I could to keep up a steady rate of fire (given the 3 round mag.) while at the same time being as accurate as possible (the muzzle brake really helped here) The group was about .90". Immediately after round #50, I grabbed hold of the barrel, opened the action and put my pinky finger in the chamber as far in as it would go.

While warm the outer jacket was not uncomfortable to hold or even what I would describe as "hot". The chamber, surprisingly, felt cooler than the barrel jacket I was holding with my other hand.

Based on my wholly subjective non scientific observations the system works. I have an accurate, stable and repeatable rifle system that is, relatively light weight and cost a total of just over $2,000.00.

I don't know if the StraightJacket is filled with a proprietary mix of sintered aluminum and copper in a high temperature aerospace epoxy or if its irradiated bat guano. All I can say is that it works for me.

Currently I am working up a handload for this rifle using 178 gr. A-Max in Lapua cases over 42 gr of Varget. My best 100 yd. 3 round group is .35". 6 round is .40" The one time I was able to shoot at 300 yd. my 6 round groups were running just under 1.5".

I have had this rifle out 4 times since I last adjusted the scope and the cold bore shot has not changed, nor has the center of the groups. I will be interested to see if this holds up as the temperature really begins to vary.

once I settle on a load, I want to try it in as cold and as hot an environment as I can get at my local range. I want to see how much of a difference it makes with this rifle for the first cold bore shot. I also want to try shooting this out to at least 600 yd. Unfortunately, that's a 1.5 hr trip and if I want a 1k yd. range that's a 3 hr trip. I will keep you posted.

On a less important note, Teludyne did a great cosmetic job of attaching their system. The brake clocks perfectly 3 - 9 o'clock and it came with a plain button if you don't want to use the brake. The finish that I chose was a mat finish carbide sandblast that just soaks up light and gives no reflection at all. They had a bunch of other finishes available in a range of textures. I asked for the least reflective and that's what I got. They also re-finished the action so it blends perfectly with the barrel treatment and cut the stock to take the barrel system.
 

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Thanks.
I had been wondering what the Straitjacket outfit was doing after the initial wave of surplus guns doing amazing things.
Let us know how it holds up at long range or even as close as 600 yards.
 
Your rifle looks good and it seems that you got good results, but do you consider it a good bang for the buck? I mean a barrel from Krieger or Rock Creek costs less than that sleeve does.
 
That is a fantastic set up there that you created and the results are very significant. It is an outstanding rifle.

However, as one poster pointed out concerning bang for the buck, what do you think the results would have been if you purchased an off the shelf Savage 10 Precision Carbine?

You have a rifle of a lifetime and your personal satisfaction must be gratifying with this interest and hobby that you have. You truly are an expert. And you have created a family heirloom.

I know that if I were to fire your rifle at the same targets, I would not be able to have the same results that you have. I just don't have the eyes and hands to do this.

Do you also compete in matches?

Regards,
 
Tony, The barrel did in fact come from Kreiger's button rifling division or now sister company Criterion. Bang for the buck is a very subjective thing. You are right, I could have just slapped a full profile bull barrel from Criterion on here and would have had the same accuracy and maybe even the same level of consistency. but, I wanted to build a rifle that would perform as if it had a full profile bull barrel but be much lighter than the north of 2o lbs that it would otherwise weigh.

If I subtract the cost of scope, bipod and the mounting hardware, as I would have put those on anyway, the rifle cost me just about $1,100.00 Now, show me an all stainless rifle with a laminate stock that weighs 10 lbs bare, is this accurate and can maintain that accuracy over long strings of fire.

So I'm happy with what I got for the price.
 
Very,

if I got a Savage 10 PC (which I have never shot or even seen) it might be as accurate for the first few rounds but as it heated up it would shift poi. Also, That model does not seem to be available lefty or in .308 on the Savage website.

What I have here is just "an" option not "the" option.

Besides, what fun is just going out and buying a rifle when we have the choice in this country to have our rifles any way we want?

The guy in the next bay at the range could have done the same thing but with a solid steel barrel from Kreiger and in .260 Rem. but you know what? he probably doesn't like pistachio ice-cream either.
 
Nice. 30% is pretty much the same improvement I got when I StraightJacketed my Savage. ALthough I went cheaper all around then you did. Nice rifle by the way.
 
I guess that super small groups are not my thing. I personally would not modify a rifle that shot .65" groups out of the box. That's plenty good for me, but I am happy for you that you are liking the modifications.
 
Thanks Dogmush,

Your post's information on the subject was what got me interested in trying the StraighJacket system in the first place.

This is my only (first?:evil:) precision rifle. All of my other bolt actions are lightweight hunting rifles. They are very accurate for the first few shots but they sacrifice consistency for portability as they are designed to do.

With this I can add a new dimension to my hobby.

Armed,
I agree with you 100% if the rifle were "out of the box". However at that point in the project it was a light sporter barrel in a VLP stock that had a channel cut for a heavy varmint profile barrel so there was about.50" of air around the entire barrel. Sort of re defines "free floated";).

Seriously, it looked pretty funky and delicate as well since the receiver collar was the only support point for the barrel.

Now, if someone wants to build a great hunting rifle I can highly recommend just buying the appropriate Savage action and putting a Criterion sporter weight barrel on it and dropping it into the stock of their choice.

With judicious on line shopping you can get premium rifle performance at bargain rifle prices.
 
Very intresting! At first glance, I didn't know how the rifle wasn't nosed over the bipod with that super bull barrel....but then I read on:cool:
 
I really like composite technology. I think the mix of materials helps dampen harmonics in a way the solid materials can't. I have bull barreled rifles and they are a bit heavy to lug around. I'll be trying something like this in 06 when time permits :)
 
Balance is 3" ahead of the trigger guard and with a total weight of 13 lbs with optics and bipod its not bad. Although it's not what it's designed for I have shot it off hand with a sling and it was more comfortable than you would expect from the looks of the rifle.
 
The sleeve is swagged on and is a semi permanent part of the barrel. I say semi permanent as the factory can remove it with a special press. Between that method of attachment and the filling inside the sleeve probably being bonded to everything I'd call it permanent as far as I'm concerned.

It feels like one solid monolithic piece. There is enough room just ahead of the barrel nut so you can remove the entire barrel in case you needed to adjust the head-space or something.
 
Bipod is an Atlas V8 that attaches to a small picattiny rail that replaced the front swivel. It has a horizontal hole at 6 o'clock to attach a sling QD. Unfortunately, I lost track of the brand.

I'm REALLY interested in the small rail section that replaced your front swivel. How did it attach? Did it use the existing hole for the swivel? I have that exact same stock, and I'd really like to put a quality rail-mount bipod on it.
 
STEVEN, I also have a couple of these and in 30-06 and 7mm mag, I did a simular test on my 7mm I shot 25 rnds as fast as I could shoot'em and then shot 5 for effect and being suppressed. I could shoot 1/2 moa at 200 meters and I could not touch the suppressor but I could touch the barrel it was warm and inside the chamber was also warm but not hot I am pleased as well.
And dprice you can buy the adaptor for 95.00 to fit the 1/2x28 or the larger 5/8x24 It is as you stated in reverse threading.
 
I like it (the idea), if it works and it looks so huge I can scare people at the range by walking in with a .223 with a barrel and that make it look l have a .50 Cal :evil: I may have to buy one.

Me: You want to shoot it?
Other Range Goer: Okay I guess. What caliber was it again?
Me: 786 Nitro Skullcrusher, now Brace yourself, and you'll need to sign this waver.
Other Range Goer: ....
Me: Ready... Fire!
.223 Savage w/ straightjacket: pfffffft.... or whatever sound no recoil makes.
 
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Looks like I may have to invest some time on one of these buggers. I have been keeping tabs on that new .204 cartridge and was thinking about building me another P-Dog rifle. If this thing cools as you say it does, this will be a most perfect addition to my P-Dog arsenal! I usually take 2 or 3 rifles on P-Dog shoots and rotate between them for cooling time.
 
Update: 600 yd. Shooting Results

I recently was able to shoot my rifle at 600 yd. thanks to a friend granting me guest access to the New Holland Gun Club rifle range. Using the same Federal Match ammo with 168 gr. SMK bullets that has been my standard since the project inception I was able to obtain several 6 round 2.5" groups.

While I have not tried them at 600 yd. yet, my handload of 178 gr. AMax over 44 gr. of Varget in Lapua cases gives me 6 round 100 yd. groups that are about .33" in diameter. Essentially just a slightly enlarged single bullet hole.

So far the rifle is very accurate and consistent. By that I mean it shoots small groups and, more importantly, the groups are always in the same place. I have often seen shooters claim their rifle shoots "X" sized 3 shot groups. And proceed to show me a series of targets that have said groups. However, the groups are not always in the same place! target 1 has it at a bit up at 12 o'clock, target 2 has it over at 10 and on and on.

What has impressed me the most with this rifle is no matter how long the string of shots (at least up to 50) the group center has not shifted. From cold bore shot to #50 they are all headed to the same poa/poi.
 
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