Savage 93r17 or Marlin XT-17

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Hello all, I have decided to trade my Axis II in for a 17 HMR. I have it narrowed down to the Savage or the Marlin. I can get both at roughly the same price (after the Savage rebate.) I am pretty positive I want a heavy barrel, still on the fence about synthetic or wood stock though.

I am a Savage man at heart, but I have had nothing but good experiences with my Marlin rimfires. The Marlin barrel is an inch longer. Only thing I don't like about either rifle is the safety on the Savage.

Has anyone shot/owned both? I would like some input. Thanks!
 
I cant speak specifically to the xt17. I had a 917 years ago, it was a great lil rifle. I sold it when I caught the jeep bug. Missed it enough that I needed another .17, but ended up grabbing a Savage 9317TR(?).

I like heavy barrel on a 17, but thats just me. I dont have many opportunities to walk around with a rifle, so weight is of little importance to me. Both good looking rifles. Inside of 100 yards, if you can see your target (whatever it is), you have a solid chance of hitting it. At 200 it drops quite a bit and dumps energy in a hurry - shot some steel that far and the "ping" is nearly inaudible.

My only complaint, and its a common-ish one, with my current Savage is the feeding from the magazine is occassionally finicky. Not a big deal, but shows where quality could be a bit better. I dont recall having any issues with the Marlin.
 
My vote is for the savage. I have owned and shot hundreds of rounds through mine and I loved it. It was a tack driver at 100 yds without even trying. I never had feeding issues with the mag, but I will say that sometimes the magazine was finicky when marrying it to the rifle. It's not that big of a deal, just have to pay attention to what you're doing. FWIW, I owned the pencil barrel and had ZERO issues with it. I honestly think that with that small of a caliber the likelihood of you getting that barrel hot (with it being a bolt gun) is very slim. Plus the weight saved makes it nice to carry and easy to shoot from a standing position. Buy the Savage with that accutrigger and don't look back!
 
I have a Savage 93R17BTVS.

The Pros:
1. It's beautiful. The laminated stock is a real eye-catcher.

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2. It's accurate. It shoots groups like this at 100 yards with ease. (The dot is 3/4")

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3. The trigger. It has the best trigger of any rifle I have ever fired. There's a little tool that can adjust the trigger, and I screwed it all the way to it's lightest setting before I ever fired it and haven't moved it since. It has a safety gizmo made in to it a little like a Glock pistol and That's cool because this is one super light, crisp trigger. I love it!

4. It was cheap. It's been a while, but I remember buying it brand new for under 400 bucks.

5. It's been reliable. No breakage and no issues. (Other than mentioned below)

The Cons:

Yeah. The only thing I can say about that is The Magazine Mount.

There is a piece of sheet metal bent into an "L" shape, attached to the bottom of the barrel by one screw.

The magazine has a little channel made into it at the rear, and this little channel slides over that bent piece of sheet metal as a guide to hold the magazine in position.

In theory, it's supposed to have the magazine in just the right position to allow the bolt to strip rounds off and feed them into the chamber.

If you stop and think about it for a second, An AR-15 has a large square receptical made into the lower receiver that does the same job. It's made of forged aluminum, and the magazine is rock solid when it's snapped into place.

Not so with the little Savage.

The "L" shaped piece of sheet metal can bend and flex pretty easily, and allows the bottom of the magazine to move front to rear. When this happens, the top of the magazine tilts up and down and causes the new round to miss the chamber when the bolt is pushed closed.

It can be frustrating.

I have learned that taking my left hand off the front of the stock and grasping the magazine and stock from the bottom to support it while I work the bolt can result in perfect feeding, so that's what I do.

But my rifle is pretty much a range toy, and is only fired from sand bags.

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If I was walking around with the rifle, hunting, this would be a problem.

It seems that operating the bolt slowly and gently is fairly reliable, but trying to rapidly reload after a miss (Yeah, it's possible to miss, but it's unlikely) pushes forward on the mag, tilting it down, and the new round noses into the barrel below the chamber. And then your squirrel or whatever runs away.

Whatever. I don't hunt with it.

And they may have improved on this design. My rifle was bought in maybe 2005, when the HMR was a fairly new thing. They have had lots of time since then to work it out.

Would I buy another of these if this one disappeared?

YOU BET!

The little hassle of dealing with the magazine is merely that. It's a small hassle. I have learned how to make it work for me and I can shoot it all afternoon without a hitch.

This rifle is a flat shooting joy, and it makes me look like I know what I'm doing. I can put my crosshairs on the center of a golf ball anywhere from 25 to 125 yards, and pull that awesome trigger- and get a solid hit.

No holdover or guessing required.

All my buddies hate the thing, because none of them has been able to out shoot it.

It doesn't kick, so it's possible to watch the bullet impact through the scope. I can't even begin to describe how cool that is. :D

So, on a scale of 1 to 10, I'm going to give the rifle a solid 9 1/2. Buy one. You won't regret it.
 
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The design and performance are so much the same between Marlin and Savage rimfires I would just go with the better magazines (Marlin). I've got 20+ year-old Marlin magazines that still feed perfect (22LR).

You MIGHT have a slightly better chance of getting a REAL track-driver with the Savage but they're both known for great accuracy.

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I have a 93R17. I've had zero feeding issues with the factory magazines, but aftermarket ones can be touch and go. Poorly designed magazine mounting. That being said, the rifle is definitely accurate and I have no feeding, extracting or ejection issues no matter how fast you cycle the bolt.

I've also accurized mine considerably after purchase, with a heavier floorplate, re-crowning the muzzle and bedding the action. With a bit more trigger work I've brought my trigger pull down to about 1.5 pounds and it's amazing - obviously a bench rifle and not one that's carried at all. Lots of fun to shoot.

That's my Savage experience. I had to overcome some initial issues with reliable extraction but after that, no problems. For a relatively low price, it has a lot of potential. I can't speak to the Marlin at all (never seen one) but if it compares favorably and has a better magazine system, go for it. If it has weaknesses of a different kind, consider the Savage!
 
I hunted rabbits with my buddies Savage 17, looks very similar to FastFranks gun. Accurate,flat lie a laser. If you saw your target, especially a head shot, it was incredibly easy to make the shot. The downside with the heavy barrel and thumbhole stock, is they are not made to be carried really, in the field. I'd buy a Savage maybe in a sporter model instead of target, if you are planning on hunting with one.
 
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. I have Savages in .17HMR and .22LR that are both excellent but wouldn't turn my nose up at a similar Marlin. The .17 shoots under half-MOA.
 
I went by the local gunshop today, and am sold on the Savage. I handled both the normal barrel and the heavy barrel, and wasn't put off by the weight of the heavy barrel at all. Of course, I'm used to carrying a 7 1/2 lbs Marlin 336 rig in the mountains.
 
I cant really add anything new to this but i will put in my $.02. Father has the marlin and step dad has the savage(with heavy barrel) Accuracy wise its a wash between the 2, both are great shooters. As mentioned the magazine could be a lot better and thus feeding of the savage isnt very smooth, the marlin action is very easy. But the savage does have a noticeably nicer trigger.
 
Well I have found them on Sportsmans Guide at a darn good price. Only thing is do I get the FV (synthetic/heavy barrel) and replace it with a Boyd's stock later, or do I want to get the GV (hardwood/heavy barrel) for only $21 more and maybe not have to replace the stock at all.. Oh decisions decisions.
 
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