Savage 93r17 TR
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dirtykid
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hold on i'll try to get pics of mine up-loaded,,
dirtykid
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http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/01/new-savage-m93-17-hmr-varminttactical-rimfire/,,,,, well mine is juct like this one Except for my stock is olive-green and has a flash suppressor on it.
I KNOW ,, I KNOW I normally wouldnt even consider a "tacticool" gun but this one was on sale at Cabella's for $399 and the only other choice was wood-stock/stainless barrel ( I varmint hunt so i didnt want to have to Camo a new gun) I dropped a Nikon proview 3x9-50 which i found to be way too little glass for what this gun can do,, at 200-yard paper target i can barely see bulls-eye-center,, so im gonna put the same scope i have on my REM-700 VTR .243 (A Nikon Monarch 4x12-42) which may sound like overkill, but this little baby is just getting warmed-up at 150-yards,, so after pushing about 50-shells thru it im putting 1/2-dollar size holes in paper at 200-yds.
So i took it back to where i trap yotes and coons in the winter to "manage" some rampant skunk population, set some table scraps on the bottom of this old-rock quarry floor about 80-feet below me and about 200-yds out, 1st stripe-kitty i shot right in front shoulder (EXACTLY where crosshairs were) and the next 2 were BOOM-headshot !, BOOM headshot !! i couldnt believe it !!
I haven't even messed with factory Accutrigger setting (feels smooth) not quite sure what # it breaks at, The ONLY things i would hope to change is to get a 10-round mag instead of 5,, AND swapping clips without taking eye's out of scope required some practice (kinda picky to insert new clip)
Im pretty sure i need to heavily-oil my Ruger 10/22's as they might get forgotten in safe for awhile,, Even with ammo 2x the price ($12 for 17-gr Hornady's) it's still pretty cheap to shoot.
I KNOW ,, I KNOW I normally wouldnt even consider a "tacticool" gun but this one was on sale at Cabella's for $399 and the only other choice was wood-stock/stainless barrel ( I varmint hunt so i didnt want to have to Camo a new gun) I dropped a Nikon proview 3x9-50 which i found to be way too little glass for what this gun can do,, at 200-yard paper target i can barely see bulls-eye-center,, so im gonna put the same scope i have on my REM-700 VTR .243 (A Nikon Monarch 4x12-42) which may sound like overkill, but this little baby is just getting warmed-up at 150-yards,, so after pushing about 50-shells thru it im putting 1/2-dollar size holes in paper at 200-yds.
So i took it back to where i trap yotes and coons in the winter to "manage" some rampant skunk population, set some table scraps on the bottom of this old-rock quarry floor about 80-feet below me and about 200-yds out, 1st stripe-kitty i shot right in front shoulder (EXACTLY where crosshairs were) and the next 2 were BOOM-headshot !, BOOM headshot !! i couldnt believe it !!
I haven't even messed with factory Accutrigger setting (feels smooth) not quite sure what # it breaks at, The ONLY things i would hope to change is to get a 10-round mag instead of 5,, AND swapping clips without taking eye's out of scope required some practice (kinda picky to insert new clip)
Im pretty sure i need to heavily-oil my Ruger 10/22's as they might get forgotten in safe for awhile,, Even with ammo 2x the price ($12 for 17-gr Hornady's) it's still pretty cheap to shoot.
Maverick223
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I bought one a couple of weeks ago, but had to send it back to Savage because the darn scope mounts were far too tight to remove (I plan to add a EGW 20MOA P-rail). Additionally the bolt was fairly stiff (though it smoothed a bit with after cycling it a few times so it may continue to improve). I never got a chance to shoot it, but I did adjust the accutrigger to a lighter pull (~ 2lbs) and noticed that the chamber was a bit tighter than a friend's 93R17-FV...which shoots pretty well. The (Boyd's "Tacticool") stock is great as is the tactical bolt knob. I'll post a thorough review of it when it returns (it's been gone for a week now, so hopefully it'll find its way home in the next week or two).
dirtykid, I am not aware of any 10rnd. magazines...have a link?
dirtykid, I am not aware of any 10rnd. magazines...have a link?
DNS
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I have one in 22 mag and like it. The 93's have a good reputation but the mags are a different story.
Get three or four and maybe you'll get lucky and find one that works.
Get three or four and maybe you'll get lucky and find one that works.
Semyon Vasilii
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i have a 93r17g. love the hell out of it. however my 17hmr experience is limited to this rifle
I have the 93r17 in .17 hmr, bull barrel, black synthetic, nice scope and non accutrigger. I have had a bad experience with mines. the non accutrigger sucks to the point where I almost want to trade it for a marlin. I grew up with marlins and I like them a lot better. The magazines don't feed if you don't load the bullets right. a bolt action jamming? that's unheard of, well mines did. not only that my magazine would throw the round out the top if you loaded it all the way. you get light hammer strikes on the primer if the bolt is not fully down. I have lost many squirrels due to these few reasons. I was going to trade for a marlin with similar specs but I like the savage action a lot better. the stock and grip also fits my hand a lot better. i did the shim trick for the trigger and seem to help out a little bit.
despite all of it's misfortunes, it's an extremely accurate rifle, smooth action (smoother than marlin's imo), affordable and simple. I know a few people who have the 93 series rifle and have had no problems. maybe it's just mines. I'd still buy another one but with an accutrigger.
despite all of it's misfortunes, it's an extremely accurate rifle, smooth action (smoother than marlin's imo), affordable and simple. I know a few people who have the 93 series rifle and have had no problems. maybe it's just mines. I'd still buy another one but with an accutrigger.
Maverick223
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If I understand you right, that is a problem with any rimmed cartridge (loading incorrectly results in "rim-lock") and cannot be solved. That said, the Savage magazines do leave a bit to be desired, but have always been functional (even when fully loaded) IME. As far as the rifle not firing (light primer strikes) when the bolt isn't fully closed, that is a safety feature to prevent firing out of battery. It is better to loose a squirrel, or groundhog, p-dog, et cetera than one's face.
Me either. I'm with you on the flush rotary magazine too, the magazine wasn't one of Savages best designs. BTW the Ruger 77/22 uses 10/22 magazines (matched to the action length of course).
Love mine. It's actually my favorite of all of my guns now. Thought it looked good at the store, so I bought it. Love the accutrigger, scope is good too.
Then I went to the range and did this with it at 100 yards on a slightly windy day. The gun can do far better than I, I just need more time and calmer conditions with it. Try out some different ammos. Check out that pretty dead center single. I've never done that @ 100yds ever! The big holes were from my SKS @ 100 yds iron sights.
Then I went to the range and did this with it at 100 yards on a slightly windy day. The gun can do far better than I, I just need more time and calmer conditions with it. Try out some different ammos. Check out that pretty dead center single. I've never done that @ 100yds ever! The big holes were from my SKS @ 100 yds iron sights.
first off, the bullets have to be stacked on top of one another of course and if you don't get the top bullet angled right, it my jam. pull the bolt back then insert the magazine and chances are the bullet will hit the breech face cause there is no feed ramp to correct the angle at which the bolt is pushing forward. one thing I learned is if you load the magazine with the bolt closed, the top bullet will most likely hit the bolt and get it's correct angle and therefore feed properly, most of the time. lol how it works like a charm at the range but in the fields it's nothing but problems.
maybe it's just my magazine but with a loaded magazine, as i pull the bolt back to cycle a new round in, sometimes all the bullets will shoot out the of the gun through the top as if the the feed lips have widen or the spring too strong. It's happened a few times when I was shooting at a squirrel. i tried pinching the lips to make it tighter but still the same thing from time to time. I'll try to post a video of some issues to better explain the magazine problems I'm having.
I'm going to get a new magazine and try that out. the silver ones seem to be of a thicker metal. maybe i'll try that one.
DNS
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I forgot to mention that I did have to add .006 to the firing pin to stop the light strikes I was having. This seems to be a fairly significant problem with the 93 model.
As far as the mag goes it has been suggested that double springs would solve the issue. Mag lips are easily knocked around and mine actually started feeding all at once too.
As far as the mag goes it has been suggested that double springs would solve the issue. Mag lips are easily knocked around and mine actually started feeding all at once too.
dirtykid
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Sorry to get ya guys all exicted,, I am NOT aware of any 10-rd mags for the 93 .17 yet, I was just stating my preference for upgrades if i COULD,, maybe enough E-mails to Savage customer service would produce some results ?? I suppose it would have to become a VERY popular rifle/caliber to get aftermarket companies to even sneeze at it !
A guy can always hope, In the mean time I just bought 5-extra clips to throw in my pocket
A guy can always hope, In the mean time I just bought 5-extra clips to throw in my pocket
Maverick223
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Bummer...quit teasing us with rumors of standard-cap. magazines.
where do you find the "M93" model? I guess that is cabelas only?
I also spoke to the guy at Dick's and he said he had a green stock with fluted barrel 17 model "bxp"??? anyone know of that one, cant find anything close to that on Savage webpage
I also spoke to the guy at Dick's and he said he had a green stock with fluted barrel 17 model "bxp"??? anyone know of that one, cant find anything close to that on Savage webpage
TexasPatriot.308
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my Savage 93 takes out big pigs all the time, cheap ammo cause I am overrun with pigs. I love this rifle.
DNS
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Trigga,
Yep, mig welded .006 to it. Until then three out of five wouldn't cook and brand didn't make a difference. Not as common a problem as the mag issue over at rimfirecentral.
Yep, mig welded .006 to it. Until then three out of five wouldn't cook and brand didn't make a difference. Not as common a problem as the mag issue over at rimfirecentral.
paperpuncher49
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I have the 93r17 in .17 hmr, bull barrel, black synthetic, nice scope and accutrigger.
It's a real POS. First time I shot 5 rounds through it at 50 yards, I only hit the paper once.......because the 2nd through 5th rounds went through the same hole as the first! It is so boringly accurate that shooting tight groups does not present a challenge. Can hit a golf ball at 100 yards all day long.........if you can afford the ammo.
It's a real POS. First time I shot 5 rounds through it at 50 yards, I only hit the paper once.......because the 2nd through 5th rounds went through the same hole as the first! It is so boringly accurate that shooting tight groups does not present a challenge. Can hit a golf ball at 100 yards all day long.........if you can afford the ammo.
you can get 10 round mags at this place http://www.17hmrmag.com/main.sc there 24.99 each
Maverick223
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Just got mine back from Savage...and I have to add that their customer service was excellent. Mistakes happen (it is a production rifle after all), the important part is that they fixed it, paid for shipping both ways, didn't fuss and whine about it, and did so in a timely manner (roughly two weeks). Oh, and they threw in a free magazine for the trouble. Can't ask any more than that.
As for a review, that will still have to wait a week or so until I get the mount and accouterments to add the scope...i'll report back when I have it all together and get a chance to give her a shot.
pisarski, thanks for the added information on the 10rnd magazines...I think I'll have to give one a try (when they get back in stock that is).
As for a review, that will still have to wait a week or so until I get the mount and accouterments to add the scope...i'll report back when I have it all together and get a chance to give her a shot.
pisarski, thanks for the added information on the 10rnd magazines...I think I'll have to give one a try (when they get back in stock that is).
Cactus Jack Arizona
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I've had nothing but big fun with my Savage 93 .17HMR. Very accurate with a Red Head Epic scope. No problems with either one of my 5 round mags. Granted, I wish they did make a 10 round mag for it. Mine is the cheapest they offer; black polymer stock, regular barrel, etc.
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