Savage LE 10FP 26" .308 Target

[Master Blaster]

Hi all I wanted to post my target from New Years eve's Trip to the range, and brag a bit about my 10FP

Details LE model 26" heavy barrel, Durmax pillar beded free floated stock with minor adjustments made to accomodate the slightly off center recoil lug on my gun. Accu trigger model pull weight 1lb 6 oz. Scope Nikon Buckmaster's, 4.5 - 14x 45mm adjustible objective, mounts weaver steel mounts, Millet angle lock windage adjustible rings.

Pictures attached, test target 1 inch 10 shot group fired at 100 yards from a front sandbag, my shoulder the rear rest. wind 8mph,
Load LC brass, IMR 4064 43grains, Sierra BTHP matchking 168 grains.

 

[vanfunk]

Very, very nice! Those Savages are the bee's knees. If I ever get another .308 bolt gun, it'll be one-a-those.

 

[Mike Hull]

Nice shooting!

 

[kaferhaus]

Nice group!

I have one and it shoots in the .6s & .7s (5 shot groups) using the exact same load you use except I use Lapua brass..

First time I shot this rifle it gave me two huge surprises

1. How accurate it is.

2. How bad it copper fouled!

I've since aquired 2 other Savages, one in 22-250 and one in .243 both the SS, laminated stock short action varmint models..

They also shoot great

They also copper foul like nobody's business.....

My Outers Foul Out had sat under the counter for a couple years before I got these.... now it gets regular use!

I can scrub these things to death with sweets and still get copper out of them... so I don't bother anymore, I scrub the crud out and just hook up the fout out.. Even "Wipe Out" takes 2-3 days to get it all out, but for these particular rifles it's the cat's meow.

 

[nipprdog]

goood shooting MB!

in reference to your recoil lug, check out this article;

http://www.savageshooters.com/Reviews/DuraMaxx_Stock.html

could it be the stock and not the lug?

from the article;

Apparently, the word from Bell and Carlson is that their inletting may have been too tight in the recoil lug area. This will cause the barrelled action to be pushed to one side. So I grabbed a file from the garage and started filing some of the material away from inside the stock where the recoil lug sits.

p.s. going to order a duramax myself.

 

[Master Blaster]

Durramax stock fine recoil lug slightly crooked

The slot that the lug sits in in the stock is straight tight and in the proper location. When I first put the rifle in the stock the barrel touched on the right hand side of the channel, despite it being designed to free float. I called bell and carlson, the advised me that the recoil lug was the problem.
I removed the action from the stock and examined the lug and its relationship to the action. It was offset to the left very slightly, about 1/64", that was causing, the barrel to cant to the right and touch the barrel channel. So I adjusted the slot in the stock with a carving gouge ever so slightly and the problem was solved.

I guess I could have adjusted the lug, but I did not have the wrench for the barrel nut, or headspacing gauges, so it was easier to tweek the recoil lug slot in the stock.

 

[Sisco]

I have a 10FP LE 20" on it's way to me. One of the first changes I will probably make is the stock, the Duramax is my first choice mostly for the price.
I have a 110 in 25.06 and with the factory stock I can get sub 1" groups with my hand loads. Curious as to how much better it would shoot with a stiffer stock.

 

[ocabj]

goood shooting MB!

in reference to your recoil lug, check out this article;

http://www.savageshooters.com/Revie...Maxx_Stock.html

I still have the Duramaxx stock that I used to write that review. It's actually on my .260 project rifle. I'm using it while I decide which stock I want to put on it (and after I save up a few hundred bucks). I'm actually having an alignment problem with the barrel again, but this time with a Sharp Shooter Supply (Douglas) barrel which has a slightly larger contour than the factory 10FP-LE barrel. It seems to be free floating all the way through, but the gap in the right is just enough to free float it. As it is though, the barrel channel is barely large enough to accomodate the barrel contour I'm using. Also, I'm using a SSS competition recoil lug which is a lot beefier than the factory lug.

I think B&C needs to enlarge the barrel channel a little more on the Duramaxx to accomodate the heavy/large contour barrels, as well as fixing the recoil lug inletting issue. I'd like to see some extra room in the barrel channel for that added insurance of a good free float.

I really want to try one of the Sharp Shooter Supply stocks, and I may end up getting one for my .260 instead of another McMillan A-5. If I do, it will either be the Varmint/Tactical or the SVT with the accessory rail. I like how SSS sells the stocks unfinished and unprimed as an option so you can save a few bucks and paint it yourself.

 

[nhhillbilly]

Good shooting. enjoy you new rifle. Shot it a lot.

 

[AZRickD]

My box stock .308 10FP with 2.5-10x IOR Valdada scope shot .75 or better out of the box with factory ammo. The addition of the Sharp Shooter Supply trigger, SSS Varmint/Tactical stock, decent front and rear rests, machined recoil lug, glass bedding and Lapua brass with 44.0 grains of Varget and 168 grain Nosler J4s has given me a rifle that shoots .3 to .45 three-shot 100 yard groups.

You can see it here.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=77916

 

[Master Blaster]

Thats great but have you done the real test 10 shot group with a warm barrel.???

I found that for 3 shots its basically a tight cloverleaf or one larger than .308 diameter hole (.25-.35 group).

10 Shots really puts accuracy to the test

 

[kaferhaus]

10 Shots really puts accuracy to the test

As do 5 consectutive 5 shot groups. I've seen very few mass production "box stock" rifles that will shoot anywhere near the .5s as an aggregate.

I have several rifles that will shoot 3 shot groups in the .3s.... occaisionaly... 5 shot groups are a different animal and 5 string aggs... only my benchrest rifles can beat that.... guess all us benchrest shooters are throwing our money away on these expensive actions and barrels... LOL

 

[spurrit]

5 five shot groups?

Who gives a ???? if you're over MOA after 25 rds from a warm barrel? Is al quaida hangin' out a quarter mile from your house? Really, MOA is BETTER than you need! If you're at, below, or near MOA in a 3 shot group, you'll ALWAYS be able to get the job done, as long as you do your part! Personally, if I ever feel that my yaw is too great after 25 shots, I'll just bore a hole in my 300 lb. anvil and have it rifled. THAT oughta keep me from being 1in. high, 1 in. right after a whol box of ammo!

Rant over, we now return you to your regularly sched. B/S session.

 

[AZRickD]

More to the point, my experiment with uber accuracy (and the discovery of all the time it takes to tweak and do precise reloading) depended mostly on the acquisition of a solid rest-- ie, concrete bench, heavy leather bag front and rear. Nothing I did improved "accuracy" more than the bags and concrete bench.

When I went out to the field and proned out on my Harris Bipod S-model I found I couldn't hold the rifle precisely enough to maintain my .3" groups. I was still under .75, but, heck, even on a cool Phoenix day at 95 degrees, the mirage at ground level even just out to 100 yards made my eyes wobble. And, BTW, a 9-inch bipod is too long. I'm swapping out for a 6-9 incher.

Living and learning.

Rick

 

[kaferhaus]

Who gives a ???? if you're over MOA after 25 rds from a warm barrel? Is al quaida hangin' out a quarter mile from your house?

I didn't know "terrorist zombie eradication" was the topic of this post... or "shootin bad guys"...

The subject I posted one was what was a good test of accuracy...

Obviously, you're idea of accuracy is different than mine. I wasn't discussing "accurate e-nuf" for whatever shooting you do....

Have another beer and a valium.... you'll be okay.

 

[Eric Bryant]

Doing a 10-shot string with a warm barrel is probably interesting for some. For others, measuring the accuracy of a single shot from a cold barrel is equally interesting. It kinda depends on the intended usage of the rifle. Certainly, the typical 3-shot group probably has little correlation to the practical accuracy of a rifle, but that's still what I find myself using.

kaferhaus, I've also found that my Savages foul like nothing else. It would seem to reflect poorly on the surface quality of the rifling. Perhaps a few fire-lapping shots would help, but I'm not about to risk the accuracy of rifles that function superbly just to make them easier to clean.