Saw the Punisher, highly recommend

[CrudeGT]

I went and saw The Punisher on Thursday night, at a sneak preview. It thought it was really good.

It was interesting they way the gun handling was portrayed, the gun guys, always kept their fingers off the triggers and were very consceincious(sp?) of how they were handling their guns. But the bad guys always had finger on the trigger and were waiving their guns everywhere. I guess that's typical bad guy persona though. It was pretty graphic in some scenes, okay, every scene was graphic, definitely rated R for a reason. But I thought it was really good, and I hope they make a few sequels.

ONe of the things I was wondering about. The main character has a holster for his gun that is hooked to his belt in the middle of his back, but holds his gun horizontal, with the handle pointing up. So that he can reach around behind him and and grab his gun without twisting his arm to an unnatural position. Anyone know where I could aquire one of these? it seems like it would help with concealment, and could save a second on the draw, if needed.

 

[Kodiak AK]

Did they actualy shoot the flick in Tampa , or did they use a mock up city?
What guns did he use?(On Topic. ) Did Micro make an aperance? Yea I know it isn't about Zombies , but I have been looking forward to a real Punisher flick for years .

 

[ARGarrison]

Punisher guns I remember, 2 Colt 1911s tricked out, Side by side 12ga's, sawed off side by side, Pistol gripped 870( taken from a BG), M4 with M203, a S&W revolver mountian gun.

Other firearms, Uzi, mini uzi, Walther PPK, a striker street sweeper, MP-5 both regular and SD. Thier has to be more just forgetting.

Microchip doesn't make an apperance.

 

[Mil Novecientos Once]

They filmed the whole movie in Florida, even the parts that were supposed to be in Puerto Rico. My only critic to the film is that they portrayed the local plice as plain stupid :banghead: : how can any LEO in the world would leave a bunch of custom 1911s in the crime scene, even after a couple of months since the shoot out.

Gun handling is above average. The main character allegaly trained with SEALS for 2 hrs a day for a couple of weeks. There is a scene in which one of the bad gauys is dong a point shooting technique (index finger pointing at target and middle finger on the trigger)

 

[Kodiak AK]

Mil Novecientos Once
I lived in Bradenton for 16 years and made many trips to Tampa . I would say that discription would be mostly acurate .

 

[boofus]

Did they really change the story so that Frank Castle ends up involved in a shootout that kills the son of the drug kingpin? That kind of ruins the whole Punisher story. In the comics his family was murdered because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, not because of some revenge plot on the part of the villain.

The whole point of the punisher was that he was someone that carried out justice on criminals that were above the law. His family was killed and the court system would/could not punish the perps. He did everything by the rules and the system betrayed him. So Castle turns his back on law enforcement, the justice system and becomes the kind of person he used to track down and put in jail. And it still eats away at him, kind of a tragic hero type plotline.

Like he says 'it isn't vengeance, it's punishment'. But the new storyline sounds alot like plain revenge.

 

[ARGarrison]

Yes Boofus,
SPOILER......







The story is all messed up. Frank starts out as a FBI under cover agent and during an arrest the son of a Mobster is killed. They seek revenge on Frank and Family. Frank seeks re-revenge. The whole story doesn't do the Comics justice. It lacks a lot of the hard boiled Punisher, but he is just starting out. They have him tricking the bad guys for a story line. Worst yet they know where he lives and just keep sending a lone assasian to get rid of him.

 

[CrudeGT]

I did think it was a bit cheesy they the police investigating the robbery leaves all the guns in there cabinets, and just puts tape around them. But I'm glad they left them, because those 2 colt 1911's were BEAUTIFUL. I want, I want.

Mil Novecientos Once: which scene had the point shoot technique? I didn't notice that.

I gotta say the fight scene with the russian was by far the funniest fight scene I've seen in a while. One note, I didn't know Russians could play Baseball? (go see the movie, you're understand)

 

[Deep Blue]

Anyone else notice Frank Castle's father say he "bored out the chambers" of the 1911's, then called them "naildrivers"(I thought its usually "tackdrivers"). Why would you bore the chamber and expect improved accuracy? Also, he seemed to reload the 1911's before slidelock, but then racked the slide anyway. One time near the end you could hear the round jacked out of the chamber hit the ground.

 

[Mil Novecientos Once]

CrudeGT

Mil Novecientos Once: which scene had the point shoot technique? I didn't notice that.

Rigth after the russian scene. Bad guys were climbing up the stairs and the fist bad guy did it as he approached to Castle door. The guy who did it was the one who remained there to kill Castle.

 

[CrudeGT]

Okay, I know what you're talking about, I think I do recall seeing that, just didn't pay much attention.

Also, I think I saw Dolph Lundgren in this one, just doing a cameo. When the bad guys were attacking the family gathering. One of the guy stands under the window, next to the house where Castle and his father-in-law are talking. That guy looks like an old Dolph, so much so that I laughed oiut loud in the theatre. Anyone else catch that?

 

[killermarmot]

I thought the dialogue could have used alot of help aside from the problems i had about them messin with the original story but I'll admit I didn't go see it to hear good dialogue and sophisticated plotlines. I mean this was written and directed by the men who brought us jumanji, young indiana jones, armaggedon, cliffhanger, golden eye and the hulk, not exactly sterling examples of dialogue driven masterpieces.

 

[45R]

I liked the comic book guy better. He was alot more hardcore.


Spoiler.




























Punisher bringing a knife to a gun fight was sweeeet and

The Blow torch scene had me cracking up

 

[TarpleyG]

ONe of the things I was wondering about. The main character has a holster for his gun that is hooked to his belt in the middle of his back, but holds his gun horizontal, with the handle pointing up. So that he can reach around behind him and and grab his gun without twisting his arm to an unnatural position. Anyone know where I could aquire one of these? it seems like it would help with concealment, and could save a second on the draw, if needed.

Forget about small-of-the-back (SOB) holsters. They are pure Hollyweird even though they are available from makers such as Galco. They are unsafe for a few reasons and uncomfortable (do a search on SOB here). Stick to strong side carry and you'll be just fine.

GT

 

[strambo]

Anyone know where I could aquire one of these?

Dillon makes a holster called the CYA. Looks to be of good quality and reasonably priced. http://dillonprecision.com/template/p.cfm?maj=21&min=0&dyn=1&

 

[CrudeGT]

45R, the torch scene was HILARIOUS. The whole theatre was rolling on the floor from that one. I gotta remember that, it'd make for an evil practical joke.

Tarpley, I can see if being a little uncomfortable, when sitting, because the poit of the contact would be going horizontally across the spine, and inbetween the hips. And I was wondering about it falling out, but a button strap would curb that fear. but, i guess the strong side is a better over all.

 

[Kodiak AK]

Actualy the main reason in my eye not to use a SOB is the simple fact that I like not liveing in a wheel chair.
You fall the wrong way and you have a 5 inch bar of steel sitting right on the spine . Bang severed spinal cord waiting to hppen . No thanks .

 

[strambo]

I don't think falling out would be an issue with a well made holster. The main safety issue I would be concerned with is if you get knocked on your a@! during a struggle, you have a 2-3lb hunk of metal to damage your spine. Draw stroke is a little trickier too...they do look cool though, what else matters?

Edit: Hey Kodiak, you type faster than I do! Injured spine=BAD

 

[Kodiak AK]

I just said that?
O wait you mean the gun itself falling gotcha .

 

[CrudeGT]

That was one of the things the guy teaching my CCW class mentioned. The biggest problem with having your gun in the middle of the back is the severe spinal damage from just one fall. That is a good point that I had forgotten about. But like Strambo said, It looks cool, what else matters. So now I'm torn...

 

[jeff-10]

Punisher was and is probably the best comic out there as far as guns are concerned. So I was pretty sure the film would be a great gun movie. I think I will see it next week sometime.

 

[Justin]

Saw this movie last night. For B-Grade camp, it's alright. Kind of reminded me of the so-terrible-it's-fun 'Commando' that Arnold did back in the early 80's.

Gun handling was nothing to write home about. Frank Castle had his finger on the trigger a few times too many. Tactics never really showed up, so don't expect it to be like 'Heat' or 'WOTG.'

Oh, yeah, and there's quite a bit of boozin', too. Normally I'm not against it, but taking a slug out of a bottle of Wild Turkey before handling firearms strikes me as an inherently bad idea.

On the plus side of things, Thomas Jane is The Punisher. He looks like he just walked right off of the comic book page and onto the screen. Sounds just like I'd imagine ol' Punny to sound like, too.

The supporting cast is quite good, as well. The neighbors are all fairly well written, and fleshed out almost better than the protagonist. I suppose that's no big surprise though, one of the main selling points of The Punisher character is that he is pretty much one-dimensional.

Unfortunately, The Punisher is a character who hasn't aged well. There's no way they could have kept the original origin (VietNam Vet) without having Castle be in his early to mid 50's.

Also, Punny doesn't have any sort of internal moral struggle, which doesn't make him as interesting as say, a Peter Parker.

I can't believe I'm saying this. Back in the day, The Punisher was one of my favorite comic book characters.

 

[ny32182]

As someone who doesn't know anything about the old comic book story, my only dissapointment in the story line was at the very end, which didn't really end...

I was also scratching my head over the "bored out the chambers" comment, but its a movie... what are you gonna do? At least it showed privately owned firearms in a good light.

Overall, I'd recommend seeing it. Its pretty entertaining.

 

[Harold Mayo]

Can anyone cite an actual example of a SOB holster causing spinal damage?

Just curious, 'cause I've heard that for years and have yet to be shown any actual proof that such a thing has ever happened.

 

[BluesBear]

Galco makes their S-O-B (small of back) holster

Thay also offer the M-O-B (middle of back holster)