DesertRat
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Hey all,
Well, here I am nearing the end of my oddessey of buying what will probably be my last hunting rifle to use the rest of my life. I have posted earlier threads on my selection of the Winchester model 70 Super Grade and a Kahles 4x36 scope.
I finally mounted the scope using Conetrol rings and bases and they appear to be nearly perfect for my particular setup. Yesterday I went to the range to sight the rifle in at 100 yards and I was flabbergasted when my first round went about 1-1/4" left and 3/8" low of the bullseye. My second round was right next to it. I figured everything would work out perfect. Wrong.
In my desire to finalize the setup I figured I would use blue Loctite (Permatex) to lock the ring screws down and finish sighting the rifle in. I loosened the screws put a small drop on all four and tightened everything back down. When I fired my next shot it was about 1 foot low, 1 foot left.
Now, I knew that the POI would change but I didn't figure it would change that dramatically. I realize this happened due to my tightening the screws down more tightly than they were at the initial firing. This final tightening really drew the entire unit down to the bases.
After retightening everthing I resumed firing and adjusting, but as I fired I noticed my shots appeared to drift from time to time. Strangely I'd get close to my desire zero then everything seemed to change. It was then I realized that the scope was actually sliding rearward in the rings!! Frankly, I didn't expect this to happen as the inside of the rings are pretty grippy due to the boring lines.
I spoke with the Range Master and he inquired as to whether I put any double sided tape in the ring halfs before mounting the scope, I hadn't. The Range Master said to pick up the tape Home Depot, remount and everything will work out just fine.
Now, I've heard of using double sided tape, rubber cement, Scotch Kote by 3M, and Loctite to secure the rings to the scope, but what do you people think?
I'm leaning towards the tape, but I'm not sure which kind? The double sided Scotch tape?
BTW, I think this scenario would not have occurred with some other scope brands, as I don't think many of them have as slick a finish on them as the Kahles. I was a little miffed upon noticing the slipping and the resultant white "scratch marks" on the scope. Upon dismounting the scope however, I found that the "scratch marks" simply rubbed off leaving the scope looking as though it had never been mounted.
This scope has one of the slickest black finishes I've ever seen. When your hands are sweaty, the finish on the scope is sort of like holding onto a wet ice cube. Also surprising were the insides of the rings were actually bright polished in the high spots from the whole ordeal. Kahles really needs to consider using their finish as a gun coating (if they can make it not so slick).
I appreciate any advice, and sorry for the long post.
DR
Well, here I am nearing the end of my oddessey of buying what will probably be my last hunting rifle to use the rest of my life. I have posted earlier threads on my selection of the Winchester model 70 Super Grade and a Kahles 4x36 scope.
I finally mounted the scope using Conetrol rings and bases and they appear to be nearly perfect for my particular setup. Yesterday I went to the range to sight the rifle in at 100 yards and I was flabbergasted when my first round went about 1-1/4" left and 3/8" low of the bullseye. My second round was right next to it. I figured everything would work out perfect. Wrong.
In my desire to finalize the setup I figured I would use blue Loctite (Permatex) to lock the ring screws down and finish sighting the rifle in. I loosened the screws put a small drop on all four and tightened everything back down. When I fired my next shot it was about 1 foot low, 1 foot left.
Now, I knew that the POI would change but I didn't figure it would change that dramatically. I realize this happened due to my tightening the screws down more tightly than they were at the initial firing. This final tightening really drew the entire unit down to the bases.
After retightening everthing I resumed firing and adjusting, but as I fired I noticed my shots appeared to drift from time to time. Strangely I'd get close to my desire zero then everything seemed to change. It was then I realized that the scope was actually sliding rearward in the rings!! Frankly, I didn't expect this to happen as the inside of the rings are pretty grippy due to the boring lines.
I spoke with the Range Master and he inquired as to whether I put any double sided tape in the ring halfs before mounting the scope, I hadn't. The Range Master said to pick up the tape Home Depot, remount and everything will work out just fine.
Now, I've heard of using double sided tape, rubber cement, Scotch Kote by 3M, and Loctite to secure the rings to the scope, but what do you people think?
I'm leaning towards the tape, but I'm not sure which kind? The double sided Scotch tape?
BTW, I think this scenario would not have occurred with some other scope brands, as I don't think many of them have as slick a finish on them as the Kahles. I was a little miffed upon noticing the slipping and the resultant white "scratch marks" on the scope. Upon dismounting the scope however, I found that the "scratch marks" simply rubbed off leaving the scope looking as though it had never been mounted.
This scope has one of the slickest black finishes I've ever seen. When your hands are sweaty, the finish on the scope is sort of like holding onto a wet ice cube. Also surprising were the insides of the rings were actually bright polished in the high spots from the whole ordeal. Kahles really needs to consider using their finish as a gun coating (if they can make it not so slick).
I appreciate any advice, and sorry for the long post.
DR
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