Second Strike capable STRIKER FIRED options?

[KarateHottie93]

Look...I only have one functional hand. I'd be aborting the game plan and going for a high crotch single leg before I ever tried to tap and rack against a charging adversary

In my extremely limited case, a second trigger pull on a bad primer isn't gonna waste my time whatsoever. I've had quite a few light primer strikes on cheaper range ammo and they usually cooperate after another pull.

And I know I can carry a DASA, or a revolver. I already carry both. I just like options. It's not a deal breaker though. I carry my T9 Elite half the time and it's just like any other typical striker fired...albeit overpriced.

 

[mgmorden]

Taurus G3. Walther P99. Tara TM-9X.

That's about all that spring to mind off the top of my head.

 

[Zendude]

The Taurus G3 and some of it’s predecessors (G2, Millennium Pro) have second strike capability.

 

[CNobbe]

As mentioned, Taurus G3, G3c, Walther P99, Canik TP9 DA. That's about it.

 

[KarateHottie93]

Thank you're all. You're good hombres.

 

[WestKentucky]

I hadn’t heard of the Tara. I like the idea of it but it’s still pretty glocky. I hate to admit it, but I am intrigued by it.

 

[sgt127]

Well, seeing your question, the Kahr series immediately came to mind. But, I see you have one. I’ve owned several. The only one I have left is T9.

(ignore that. The Kahr does NOT have second strike)

it’s an incredible fit for my dainty hands. Like I sent them my hand and said build a gun around that the fit is phenomenal.

A Sig with the DAK trigger is perfect for me. Kahr like, smooth light DAO trigger, second strike. But, it’s hammer fired. No decocker or manual safety.
Perhaps a single action 1911 style? You could always reach up and thumb cock it for that second strike. Just a thought.

 

[tarosean]

Why the striker fired qualifier?

 

[.455_Hunter]

The P99AS and P99DAO to be specific.

 

[gc70]

The Smith & Wesson SW99 and Magnum Research MR9 were licensed/partnership variants of the Walther P99.

 

[KarateHottie93]

Well, seeing your question, the Kahr series immediately came to mind. But, I see you have one. I’ve owned several. The only one I have left is T9.

it’s an incredible fit for my dainty hands. Like I sent them my hand and said build a gun around that the fit is phenomenal.

Perhaps a single action 1911 style? You could always reach up and thumb cock it for that second strike. Just a thought.

I want a 1911. They're just expensive. I have a couple of single action autos though. A Beretta 1951 and a Romanian TT. The Kahr is nice but sometimes I wonder why I like it so much. It's comfortable but I can think of a bunch of striker fired that are just as comfortable, have more capacity, and are much lighter.

Why the striker fired qualifier?

Just like the variety. Plus it's just a much simpler design. Don't gotta remember to decock before holstering.

 

[JeeperCreeper]

I was gonna add Canik TP9 DA or V2 or whatever they call it now.

Someone already snuck it in.

But truly, the Walther is what I would pick if my life depended on it.

 

[5-SHOTS]

If you don't want to decock then the Walther P99 AS and derivates are out. Only Taurus G2C, G3C, G3 (they all have a thumb safety you can ignore) and Tara TM-9X (no external safety) left.

 

[KarateHottie93]

If you don't want to decock then the Walther P99 AS and derivates are out. Only Taurus G2C, G3C, G3 (they all have a thumb safety you can ignore) and Tara TM-9X (no external safety) left.

Honestly I like the decocker idea. I wanted a MR-9 before they got discontinued.

 

[5-SHOTS]

Honestly I like the decocker idea. I wanted a MR-9 before they got discontinued.

Then the Walther P99 AS or the Canik TP9 DA are very very good options. For the record I have both, the Walther P99 AS and the Taurus G3 because I also like the idea to have a second strike capability, just in case.

 

[JR24]

Personally, I don't necessarily see the need to decock the P99 AS. It's got the long AS trigger on that first shot and is still around 4-5 lbs (at least the example of one I've shot quite a bit does) as a striker carrier normally, it doesn't seem any different than a 320 or PPQ in feel SA, in my opinion.

Still, even with it decocked, really like the Walther, well designed gun.

 

[zaitcev]

Well, seeing your question, the Kahr series immediately came to mind. But, I see you have one. I’ve owned several. The only one I have left is T9.

Kahr does not have second strike capability - only the long trigger pull.

 

[Shawn Dodson]

Learn to tap-rack one-handed. Get a good, stiff leather carry belt to do it with. A larger pistol with a heaver slide is easier to rack than a smaller pistol because the heaver pistol can use a lighter recoil spring due to the greater mass of the slide. Although a smaller pistol takes more effort it can be tap/racked reliably. One-handed tap-rack can be performed very quickly.

Tap-rack clears more different kinds of stoppages than just a misfire. Whenever your gun doesn't fire when you press the trigger your immediate action should be tap-rack instead of wasting time pressing the trigger again. There are more things that can be keeping your gun from firing than a primer that's not fully seated. In fact, you should inspect your carry ammo CLOSELY to detect and weed out questionable cartridges. Cartridges with high primers wobble when set on their base.

 

[zaitcev]

Just like the variety. Plus it's just a much simpler design. Don't gotta remember to decock before holstering.

Yeah but any DAO like KelTec P3AT is something you don't have to remember to decock. There's also a self-decocking action like LEM.

The point about the simplicity may be valid, although Tara is probably not it, and remember that you still need a disconnector. Glock is absolutely brilliant in accomplishing that simplicity. Most striker-fired guns are more complex, sometimes more complex than a hammer-fired DAO gun.

 

[sgt127]

Kahr does not have second strike capability - only the long trigger pull.

You are absolutely correct. I should shoot it more often.

I usually carry a P239 DAK. (That I KNOW has second strike capability). I suppose that long DA stroke of the Kahr made me recall it did.

(that previous post of mine? Yeah. Ignore that)

 

[briansmithwins]

I want a 1911. They're just expensive. I have a couple of single action autos though. A Beretta 1951 and a Romanian TT. The Kahr is nice but sometimes I wonder why I like it so much. It's comfortable but I can think of a bunch of striker fired that are just as comfortable, have more capacity, and are much lighter.



Just like the variety. Plus it's just a much simpler design. Don't gotta remember to decock before holstering.

The HK LEM is a light DAO with a long trigger pull that doesn’t require decocking. If you get a dud you can do a 2nd strike with a heavier trigger pull. Another plus of the HKs is the ambi controls so you can hit mag release with either your thumb or trigger finger for example.

BSW

 

[Rexster]

My right hand is getting gimp enough that I no longer trust it to run a slide*, unless I have the time and space to deliberately grab it with I have seen described as the “Israeli” way of grasping the slide, so, second-strike has become a desirable feature. I bought a well-preserved S&W Model 3913 TSW, to see if it may become my lefty pistol. (I have carried at 0300 to 0330 for 35 years, so will continue to tote a revolver as a righty gun, for the foreseeable future.)

Of course, the above paragraph brings up two other solutions to having second-strike capability, which is a second gun, and/or carrying a revolving pistol. I started carrying the second gun, while on police duty, but have tended to carry the second weapon during personal time, too, continuing into my retirement years.

*I no longer fully trust my right hand to always provide a stable platform to ensure reliable cycling, while shooting right-handed, either

 

[AK103K]

I think Shawn has the right answer here. The TRB is the proper response, and from personal past experiences with rounds that fail to fire on the first strike, other than 22's anyway, you are wasting your time, and maybe your life, trying to get that round to go again with multiple strikes.

This is a training thing, and not a gun thing. Its the same response with any of them. TRB.

 

[herrwalther]

The P99 was my first pistol and is still one of my favorites. You essentially have 3 trigger modes: two in single action and one in double. The problem with recommending them for this thread is they can be hard to find as Walther only makes limited runs of them.