Security ratcheted up for biker rally

[Destructo6]

Let's play the semantics game again.

Motorcyclist = the 99% who enjoy motorcycles and are interested in no more than good clean fun.
Biker = the 1% who, other than motorcycles, share little in common with Motorcyclists.

You know the point of the leather is to protect you if you take a spill.

The safety angle would be valid if the typical biker garb consisted of a full-face helmet and total coverage leathers. Since the standard seems to be cheekless chaps, a leather vest, and skull cap, if any helmet at all, safety appears to be the least of their concerns.

I'm not sure why Golgo-13's comments about what he found amusing is somehow transformed into a bigoted statement. I, too, find it amusing, similar to how I find it amusing that rich suburban white kids dress up like poor inner city gang-bangers. Why are we wrong for finding it amusing? Has a nerve been touched?

 

[Stabby]

Since the standard seems to be cheekless chaps, a leather vest, and skull cap, if any helmet at all, safety appears to be the least of their concerns

come on that's just bs. Everyone I know who rides kinda doesnt want to die. It entails appropriate boots, thick jeans a proper leather jacket, and ALWAYS a helmet. And my few friends with sport bikes the same except their jackets match their bikes, Is that the criminal dress code Golgo?

it occurs to me that maybe because I live in a traffic congested urban area with poor roads and pooreer drivers and maybe you guys don't that is why the bikers around here seem to pay a lot more attention to safety.

Offence is takeen by Golgo's comments because he insinuates that anyone wearing leather on two wheels is trying to be a criminal which is simply not the case. Now sure I don't doubt that there are some out but they are a fairly low percentage.

I understand where you guys are coming from though, and yeah it is amusing to see a clean cut doctor in full new shiny leather like you described on a brand new shiny BMW bike or something, but hey if it works for him then why not? I'm just trying to point out that a lot of the anti biker stuff sounds like the same thought process that we constantly constantly criticize the anti gun folk for....

 

[444]

I couldn't care less about this whole biker crap or what you wear. But, last year, I got called into work from home for this shootout they had last year.
I posted a little bit at the time and I am not going to add much now, but I can tell you this. This wasn't a bunch of drunk bikers getting out of control. The shooters in that casino were stone cold pros. A whole lot of ammo was fired and not one person was hit that wasn't targeted; and this was done inside a casino. Just like everything else that happens in or around a casino, the whole thing is on video tape from numerous angles. When I saw what went down, it was the first time in my life (and so far, the last time in my life) that I was afraid to be at work.

 

[King]

Thank you Erik.........

 

[StuporDave]

I think that a lot of people here are speaking about things they know nothing about.

I've been into the "biker" thing since the early 80's (before all the annoying doctors and lawyers bought bikes to look cool). I'm friends and/or aquaintences with several club members. I've been asked to apprentice for two clubs over the years, turned down both offers. The clubs aren't my thing.
As in every other area, there are many good folks who are bikers, and a few real jerks. You hang out with the good ones and avoid the jerks.


It used to be if you broke down on the highway and didn't have what you needed to fix your bike, just wait. The next Harley that came by would stop. They'd either have what you needed, get you needed, or go make a phone call to your friend with the pickup truck.
That doesn't usually happen with the ""RUBbies" (rich urban bikers) They couldn't care less about a guy with an older bike with little chrome. They'll pass you up without even a glance.

I'll take the clubs and old independants any day. Better folks in my experience.

 

[Joe Demko]

Destructo6,
Their knickers are wadded about my comment because of an earlier thread dealing with stereotyping. I pointed out that not every kid who dresses in "gangbanger" clothes is an actual gang member. Said thread ended up locked. you can review it here , if you want. For the comprehension impaired, note that the difference between that thread and this one is that I don't assume that every guy I see dressed up in biker drag astride a Harley is an actual crank-dealing-illegal gun-toting-killer-lone biker of the apocalypse. IOW, the sight of a man on a motorcycle doesn't escalate me into Condition Plaid (or whatever color code is trendy today).
I will expand on my earlier comment to clarify that what amuses me is that the middle-aged guys buying the Harleys and the biker costumes are going to great expense to dress as a stereotype i.e. the "outlaw biker." Nothing wrong with playing dress-up games, though. They're free to dress like any member of "The Village People" they care to and I'm free to laugh at them.

 

[Master Blaster]

Dress Up is fun!!

SAS Single action shooting society.

Civil War re-enactors

A few gunnies that pop immediately to mind.

Bikers most are good 1% are bad, Just like EVERYBODY ELSE.

In my neck of the woods we have the Thunderguards, Warlocks, and the Pagans. They sell Crank, They shoot cops. They steal, but mostly they kill each other, like the Hells Angels.

Look up James Muddman Simon as a Warlock example.

We also have Blue Thunder which is composed of Police Officers who dress like bikers and ride for fun.

 

[JohnBT]

Bikers are okay. I still have a permit and a few scars

It's Laughlin have reservations about. I got a free gambling junket to Laughlin once. Two things stand out in my mind about the trip. Nice people and a very long flight. Mostly the flight.

John