See someone CC where they arent supposed to.

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What would you do? Case in point, we were moving my son into his college dorm last month. While waiting in line for the elevator, I noticed the man in front me wearing what looked to be a tactical vest. The way he was leaning onto a counter top made it very clear he was carrying on his right hip. In Va, unless you are a LEO (I think), schools are one of the places you dont CC (there are a few exceptions, but not in this example).

So I guess my question is, should I have said anything to him? I didnt, and still think I shouldnt have, but I have often wondered if I should have. I dont mean making a scene or anything like that, but maybe some sort of a comment, if nothing else just to let him know he was made. (The last thing I would want to do is cause a problem for a CCW holder, unless they do something very illegal and/or very stupid - putting me or my family at risk.) I'm still waiting on my CCW permit, and trying to learn all I can.
 
Nah, I'd have kept it to myself, too. He wasn't hurting anyone - just refusing to be disarmed in a victim disarmament zone. If he wants to run that risk, more power to him. I think it's an absurd, illegal, and dangerous law. Let him make his own decisions.

Now about the tactical vest... like mag pouches and all?:confused: Or like one of those discreet 5.11 concealment vests?
 
Tactical probably wasnt the best way I could have described the vest. It was tan in color, and more like the 5.11 vests. Sorry for the confusion.
 
In all probability, he was some type of police officer or security guard who was good to carry there. That doesn't mean that you couldn't tap him on the shoulder and say something like "Hey bud, your piece is showing. Might want to check it."

That way, you let him know that A.) you've noticed he's packing, and B.) He's been noticed in general.

This easily opens up the lines of communication. Casually mention that you're a CCW holder (or have been meaning to go for yours, whatever) and that you were suprised to see him packing. He'll probably explain what he's up to and who he is, and end up talking guns with ya for awhile while your boy lugs the rest of his stuff up to his room. :)

In general though, when in doubt - ask. At worst, the person ignores you, but knows you see them and are watching them. At best, you chew the fat with a fellow gunny for awhile.
 
at the least i would have tried to make eye contact with him and than looked at his hip and he would know what i was seeing. and he would know that his concelled wasn't and correct it. failed eye contact would have elicited me uttering the word 'printing' softly near him. he would understand that also. more than that, ain't my business.
 
You sure he couldn't "legally" carry there?

I haven't kept up with this lately since it hasn't directly affected me, but last I knew of, you could carry on a college campus if you were not a student or teacher.
Actually, you could "legally" carry if you were a student or teacher, but would risk expulsion if caught since it was not against the law.
There may have been something involving an institution receiving state funds not being able to deny you the right to carry. I think if they received state funds, they couldn't deny you-if they were a private college, they could do what they want but I think you'd be back into the trespassing thing instead of a firearms violation if you were caught carrying?

Might crusie over to VCDL's site and do some checking?
I know I've seen a lot of banter 'bout CC laws having K12 as the upper limit AFA where you can't carry.

EDIT: Just cruised over to VDCL's site and did a quick look/see, and the only thing they have listed AFA colleges under the legal section is VCU-looks like VCU is the only college where it's illegal to carry in VA?
 
failed eye contact would have elicited me uttering the word 'printing' softly near him. he would understand that also
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Not every gun owner knows what that means. I've been carrying and reading gun mags for years and I had never heard the term until I signed up here not too long ago.
 
Actually, in VA it's legal to CCW with permit on college campuses. Private schools can prohibit, but that's the private-property / trespass thing. Public schools can't, except for VCU which has an actual General Assembly-passed regulation. Where they get you is that if you work for them or go there, you can be fired or expelled.

So, for example, I can and do carry at Tech, but if I pack at NVCC I'm subject to expulsion. Of course, the day after I get expelled, I can open-carry in Annandale's (open to the public) library, and they can't do a durn thing. :D
 
basicblur, thanks for correcting me, it is in fact K-12, and VCU where CC in Va is not legal. I had forgotten about that. So in the situation I described, it was in fact a legal CC, and the person wasnt printing bad enough that anyone else would see.

Good feedback thought from others should the situation arise. Thanks.
 
I wouldn't say anything unless they were very blatantly printing, in which case I might let them know so they could rectify the problem. I don't really care if they're packing or not, but I would like to let them know if maybe they're not quite as covert as they might think they are.
 
Printing....

....and he would know that his concelled wasn't and correct it. failed eye contact would have elicited me uttering the word 'printing' softly near him. he would understand that also. more than that, ain't my business.
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If someone uttered the word "printing" to me, I'd look around for the CAMERA.

I mean, this must be Candid Camera and/or there's a flako I want to get away from!

That's mainly because I'm just not familiar with THAT TERM!

LOL
 
basicblur beat me to the legality of it.

In the very few instances where I've thought someone wasn't supposed to be carrying but they were I will admit to shameless PROFILING.

If you look clean, are behaving in an appropriate fashion, and have the piece in a nice holster (and BTW you can be tattooed and pierced to high heaven and still look "clean" in my book) then in all likelyhood I'm gonna mind my own business.

If you are all twitchy, dirty, and behaving erratically and above all if you don't have the gun in some sort of holster then all of my alarm bells are going to go off and I'm going to be making a phone call.
 
I wounldn't say a word to them. You don't know what that person would do if they know you know that have a gun. They very well could pull it on you.

If it was someone I knew or at least saw frequently, I would say they need to tighten up before the wrong person saw them.

If I was the person carrying and someone I've never seen before approached me about my printing firearm, I'd tell them thanks, but I would be thinking "mind your own business"
 
it does'nt seem worth giving a 2nd glance.who cares?i rate this up there with catching my neighbor picking his nose today.
 
Not my job to enforce unconstitutional regulations and laws.
The only thing I might feel is a little jelousy at them being able to carry in a place I am unwilling to.

When the law prohibits guns somewhere only criminals will have them.
Not all criminals are bad however, it is a statute that defines what a criminal is and some statutes are unjust. Being a gun owner when guns are banned makes you a criminal for example.

In some nations carrying a gun or even a pointed knife is illegal everywhere. I certainly wouldn't help enforce those laws or think any worse of the people that ignored them.

Carry on with your own business. If you think they might not know the law you can discreetly inform them in a way nobody else will hear.
 
n Va, unless you are a LEO (I think), schools are one of the places you dont CC
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That's the key right there isn't it? If you don't know what you're talking about, don't.
 
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