Self defense shooting outside of your home state?

[CountGlockula]

This is a "legal" question for travelers who carry concealed for protection.

What if you're taking a vacation/business trip away from your home state to another state that accepts your CCW permit. In that outside state you were able to protect your safe and had to shoot a bad guy-incident is justified (bad guy threatens you with deadly bodily harm and you were able to live through it).

What are the legalities of investigation, trial, etc?

Would you have to be stuck in that state until everything has been cleared?

I ask, because time loss of responsible duties at your home state may be sacrificed.

Thanks.

 

[Zoogster]

It means you are alive and well.

However it also means in the case of trial that you will be expected to travel from your home state to that state to attend.

Technicaly a court could also issue a court order that you had to remain within thier jurisdiction I believe. That could be argued against, but I don't know a lot about that.

I know just getting a vehicle citation as a traveller really sucks for people out of state (been with people that have.) They are unable to have thier day in court because they must travel to that state, and essentialy are forced to just pay the fee which is an admission of guilt even if innocent.
That is why some small towns on interstates get most of thier revenue from out of state residents passing through.
They can say whatever they want, that you violated whatever they want, and if you have out of state plates, especialy from more than one state away you likely will never be around to argue otherwise in court.


In a self defense case you obviously cannot just plead guilty and pay a fee. You would have to travel back and forth to every court date at the minimum. That is if they let you leave to attend and keep your job.

I don't know, but I imagine part of the bail contract if you had to post bail might be an agreement to stay in thier jurisdiction?

 

[CountGlockula]

So...it's a bummer to carry when traveling.

Or might as well NOT carry at all for self-defense purposes, but more for sport-if attending an competition.

 

[FCFC]

High cost of shooting

In a self defense case you obviously cannot just plead guilty and pay a fee. You would have to travel back and forth to every court date at the minimum. That is if they let you leave to attend and keep your job.

One of the costs of any self-defense shooting is dealing with the LE and/or judicial processes. These costs can be minor or major, in terms of money, time, and stress.

In some cases those incurred costs are not too too discretionary, i.e., you've righteously saved your life and those of your loved ones in a "good shoot." No monetary cost would or should prohibit you from saving yourself or loved ones. And just because one is charged with a crime doesn't mean it's not a "good shoot." You just go through the process and work for the best outcome given the circumstances. At least you're alive and whole.

But the money/time/stress costs can also be major, i.e., you've made an error of some kind in deploying your gun and now have to go through the system. It's a "bad shoot." Will cost you time, money and grief. Might cost you your house, maybe even your freedom.

"Bad shoots" should be avoided like the plague. "Good shoots" should never be avoided. But, hey, a "good shoot" is really unavoidable. It's a last resort.

 

[Packman]

Or might as well NOT carry at all for self-defense purposes, but more for sport-if attending an competition.

Can't say I agree with you there. I'd much rather be alive and forced to travel back for court than get shipped home in a box.

Hassle? Yes, but I like living.

 

[mgkdrgn]

"I ask, because time loss of responsible duties at your home state may be sacrificed."

if you let the BG kill you, how much "time loss" do you think you are going to have?

 

[Guns and more]

Nothing would be easy. Of course, the person you shot
is having a worse day.

 

[ArmedBear]

California, for example, does not recognize other states' CCW permits.

However, the law ("castle doctrine") specifically allows firearms to be kept and used for self-defense at any temporary or permanent residence including campsites, hotel rooms, etc. Campsites may, of course, be in places like National Parks, where guns are currently not allowed, but assuming the campsite is somewhere that guns are not prohibited, you can have and use them for defense.

What's my point? This all varies from state to state, and it's NOT safe to assume ANYTHING. Different states can have VERY different laws regarding self defense, as well as firearms carry and use.

 

[TallPine]

Well, look at the bright side.

The police may offer you free housing and meals while you are waiting for the case to be settled

 

[Solo Flyer]

So...it's a bummer to carry when traveling.

No Count.Staying alive is numero uno.
Also, Clipper's are still terrible and Laker's have been under performing.
Angel's or Dodger's may end up making your day.
You're in Lala land .Relax.
I'm an ex-patriate.So I'm sympatico.