Selling and shipping primers

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I am not sure if this is the proper place to post this but I have an excess of primers I doubt I will ever get around to using. I have 5,000 Wolf small rifle primers I bought a few years ago and have more than I need.

I would like to list these on one of the online auction sites but am not sure how the shipping works on something like this. Do you have to put a hazmat fee on the selling price or an ORM-D on the box? The ones I looked at on GB have shipping prices below what I thought the Hazmat fee would be. Any help is appreciated.


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You cannot ship primers without the proper certification. It's a serious crime. You can sell them locally but probably not at the prices you see on Gunbroker. The ORM-D is what you must put on boxes of loaded ammunition if you ship it. Do not try to ship those primers however you will have zero problem of getting a higher than normal retail price for them locally. Try Armslist and see if you have a local firearm forum like we do in the northwest with a classifieds section.
 
warnerwh said:
You cannot ship primers without the proper certification. It's a serious crime. You can sell them locally but probably not at the prices you see on Gunbroker. The ORM-D is what you must put on boxes of loaded ammunition if you ship it. Do not try to ship those primers however you will have zero problem of getting a higher than normal retail price for them locally. Try Armslist and see if you have a local firearm forum like we do in the northwest with a classifieds section.
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This.
 
Those are good primers, and you bought them cheap if you bought them when many of us did, you may want to just keep them. :)
 
warnerwh said:
You cannot ship primers without the proper certification. It's a serious crime. You can sell them locally but probably not at the prices you see on Gunbroker. The ORM-D is what you must put on boxes of loaded ammunition if you ship it. Do not try to ship those primers however you will have zero problem of getting a higher than normal retail price for them locally. Try Armslist and see if you have a local firearm forum like we do in the northwest with a classifieds section.
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Thanks for the post. I have never heard I couldn't ship primers. There must be 30 pages of small pistol primers for sale on GB and I find it hard to believe that all those sellers have a certification to sell them. But maybe so. I haven't thought of selling anywhere else because I am established on gunbroker with over a hundred buys and sells there.

Walkalong said:
Those are good primers, and you bought them cheap if you bought them when many of us did, you may want to just keep them.
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I thought about that and I still have 3,000 small rifle primers on hand if I sell those. Plus I have around 6,000 loaded rounds on hand that I will probably never shoot. And my sons are not gun buffs like I am so they are only very mildly interested in guns.
 
OK I did some research and if I have this correct you have to have an explosive license to sell primers. So what I did was send several sellers who have primers listed on GB for sale this message asking how they were able to sell primers. I picked sellers who look like an idvidual because of no company name and they don't collect taxes.

Hello I see you have primers for sale here and am not asking about the primers as much as what license you may have had to get to sell primers? I have 5,000 Wolf small rifle primers I would like to sell while the market is hot but have been told I need an explosives license to do so. If you don't have the time or desire to answer I understand. Thanks in advance, Thomas.
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So we'll see if I get any responses to my email. Either that or I just scared the crap out of 5 sellers.
 
You also need to be Hazmat certified. This is cost prohibitive to regular Joes like you and me.

In addition to certified sellers, you may be seeing other sellers online who do not understand the law (and would be breaking it if they shipped any primers).
 
I suspect there are a lot of sellers on GB who going to break the law. One sellers has many, many boxes of primers for sale and only 9 feedbacks so I am guessing he is new to the gun game. If he gets caught I suspect he will learn a very expensive lesson.
 
I was hoping to just list them for what I paid for them, about $25 a thousand and then let the market set the final price. They would probably sell for between $125 and $150 on GB but I can't with a clear conscience ask that for them. Like back when 22s were selling for $100 a brick at the gunshow. My bud sold about 10 bricks for $100 each. I couldn't ask that but then if you didn't the dealers would buy them from you and then sell them themselves for a $100 a brick.

But if someone offers that for them in an auction against other buyers then its OK with me. I'm weird I know.:uhoh:
 
IF you put them for sale for 25 a thousand you will likely be getting numerous offers to buy them. Around here about 30 dollars a brick is what they were selling for before the craziness.
 
I suppose you could list them on Gunbroker and make it very clear that you will not ship -- local sale only. I'm sure they'd go fast. Heck, if you offer them at a reasonable fixed price, I'd drive up and get them. :)
 
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warnerwh said:
IF you put them for sale for 25 a thousand you will likely be getting numerous offers to buy them. Around here about 30 dollars a brick is what they were selling for before the craziness.
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The $25 price was what they would have been listed for and then the guys bidding would set the final market value at the end of the auction and I am certain it would be over $100 per 1000ct carton.

hso said:
They probably don't and they're breaking the law. More importantly, they're endangering others by not packaging and shipping per regulation.
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Yep and thats why I asked and why IF I decided to sell any they would be for local pick up only. I can't afford the fine. And I remember this being discussed after Sandy Hook when bricks of 22s were selling for over a $100 a brick on GB and it was suspected a lot of those sellers were shipping illegally. Maybe I will just hold on to what I have for now as suggested by Walkalong.
 
ThomasT said:
The $25 price was what they would have been listed for and then the guys bidding would set the final market value at the end of the auction and I am certain it would be over $100 per 1000ct carton.



Yep and thats why I asked and why IF I decided to sell any they would be for local pick up only. I can't afford the fine. And I remember this being discussed after Sandy Hook when bricks of 22s were selling for over a $100 a brick on GB and it was suspected a lot of those sellers were shipping illegally. Maybe I will just hold on to what I have for now as suggested by Walkalong.
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You can ship loaded ammo legally through a common carrier (UPS or FedEx).
 
Havok7416 said:
You can ship loaded ammo legally through a common carrier (UPS or FedEx).
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Yes but loaded ammo or even primed cases are not the same as primers by themselves which are considered an explosive. Strange rules I know but thats what I learned with a little reading. Hopefully this thread will help someone else with the same question.
 
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I was addressing your comment about .22s being sold illegally. The only way that could happen would be if the seller sent the ammo via USPS.
 
Havok7416 said:
I was addressing your comment about .22s being sold illegally. The only way that could happen would be if the seller sent the ammo via USPS.
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Ah! Okay gotcha. There was no telling how those guys were shipping all the 22s they were selling. And I bet a lot went through the mail.
 
Some time back, oh, about the time of the last panic, someone desperately needed primers.

I asked him for what caliber, and sent him, via UPS, 500 primed cases, which don’t require haz-mat shipping.
 
I'd be willing to bet if you posted them in the classifieds on here, someone would come get them from you. Maybe not at $100/1000...but if you're sincerely not wanting to rake anyone over the coals, you could more than double your money while still being very reasonably priced.
If your goal is to maximize profits while the price is high, then GB or Armslist (even Craigslist maybe) local pickup only.
 
Post them on Armslist for triple what you paid. Maybe even quadruple. Someone will buy them. And if they dont. Drop the price a few bucks ever week.
 
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