Senate overturns...veto of deadly force bill

[SSN Vet]

"Live Free or Die"

the bill simply gives people the right to stand their ground and defend themselves, and argues such a provision has actually been shown to reduce crime.

http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110908/GJNEWS_01/709089717

good results in the state senate....

unfortunately, a very biased article.

My understanding is that the law overturns earlier rulings that upheld "stand your ground" inside your home, but had "duty to retreat" outside. These were argured to violate the NH Constitution which protectst he right to use force to protect your property.

 

[Standing Wolf]

...the bill simply gives people the right...

Rights are intrinsic, not given or granted by laws.

 

[SSN Vet]

not ot hijack my own thread, but...

Rights are intrinsic

who determines what these intrinsic rights are and are not?

If their definition and protection is not codified into law (preferably the highest law of the land) they don't amount to much.

 

[230RN]

Interesting because the Colorado Constitution also has two clauses in it regarding protecting property:

COLORADO CONSTITUTION

ARTICLE II
Bill of Rights

Section 3. Inalienable rights. All persons have certain natural, essential and inalienable rights, among which may be reckoned the right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties; of acquiring, possessing and protecting property; and of seeking and obtaining their safety and happiness.


Section 13. Right to bear arms. The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question; but nothing herein contained shall be construed to justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons.
(Bolding mine)

This seems contrary to a lot of the "submit to the aggressor/thief/scumbag/whatever and give him what he wants" philosophy which is becoming the norm.

There was a Colorado case about ten-fifteen years ago where a guy had a set-trap shotgun by his warehouse door and "it" killed a would-be burglar attempting entry. His warehouse had been burgled many times in the past.

Surprisingly, there was no prosecution for murder (I think he pled to something minor) but he was requested/asked/urged to leave the State. I've often wondered if he had a sharp attorney who cited those clauses and the D.A. decided it might be better if the whole case sort of "evaporated." But that's pure supposition on my part.


Terry, 230RN