Service rifle competition qestions

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Hi, I've got an M-1 Garand HR Rack Grade Greek on the way, and I'm interested in starting in service rifle competition, certainly not to be competitive (I have trouble hitting the proverbial "broad side of a barn" ;) ), but to learn.

1) Anyone know of a service rifle competition or related activity in the Bakersfield, CA area?

2) What do I need to compete? I've got the rifle coming, which I'm planning to rebarrel to .308- would this be a legal setup? Do I need a 1907 sling? How many clips? Are there ammo restrictions? Again, I'm looking for a basic setup, just something to get started with. $$$ is limited.

3) Finally, any web resources that I can look into?
 
Hi, I've got an M-1 Garand HR Rack Grade Greek on the way, and I'm interested in starting in service rifle competition, certainly not to be competitive (I have trouble hitting the proverbial "broad side of a barn" ), but to learn.

Hell, that's why I'm there. :) And it's a lot of fun. Be careful, it starts off like crack...

2) What do I need to compete? I've got the rifle coming, which I'm planning to rebarrel to .308- would this be a legal setup? Do I need a 1907 sling? How many clips? Are there ammo restrictions? Again, I'm looking for a basic setup, just something to get started with. $$$ is limited.

.308 Garands are legal for service rifle matches, but if you want to shoot a John C. Garand match, it's gotta be in .30-06. Check with your local match director, there's no real ammo restrictions, other than no silly things like tracers. I don't shoot a Garand in highpower (yet) but you'll need two 8 round clips and two 2 round clips for the rapid fire stages, and a single loader device for the slow fire stages. You'll need a sling, be it a cotton Garand sling that I think will come with your rifle if you buy one from the CMP or a 1907 style sling like a Turner or Les Tam. A sweat shirt and a field jacket or other heavy jacket to absorb pressure from the sling would be nice, and something to lay on like a beach towel or a piece of carpet for the prone stages too. If your range has pit service, you don't really need a spotting scope right off, you'll be able to see the target pasters with a pair of binocs. The spotting scope is important for reading wind and mirage, but good ones are expensive and you only want to buy once. And besides, chances are someone will loan you theirs in between relays.

3) Finally, any web resources that I can look into?
Florida Highpower That's not just Florida people, but there's links to different highpower boards all across the country from there.
 
natedog,

Welcome to Highpower comp....

Your best bet in learning how to shoot your M1 is to locate a CMP club in your area that holds John C. Garand Matches.... OR any club that holds NRA Highpower matches, OR any club that holds military rifle shoots. These clubs usually hold clinics to show new shooters how it's done.

Having said that I'll address your questions:

1) Sorry, I'm from SW Missouri. :D

2) Go to this website Osage Orange Sharpshooters website and check out all the pages. This will give you a decent idea of what's involved in your basic Highpower short course (100 yds). It is showing basically what's done at any CMP type John C. Garand match which your new rifle will be ideal for. This is because the JCG match rules specify an isuue grade, unmodified M1. No match mods allowed. This means that if you switch tubes you'd have to keep it 30-06. .308 is a no-no.

As a contrast.... a CMP EIC (aka "Leg Match") or NRA Across the Course Service Rifle match is shot in the exact same format as above, but is done at 200-300-600 yards. The rules about rifles are different too. In these matches a .308 M1 is legal..... but in order to be competitive at these longer ranges you REALLY need to do the full match upgrade to your M1. The stock M1 just ain't gonna' cut the mustard much past 200 yards. This is an expensive proposition. By the time you put on a new barrel, do full bedding, front end unitizing, match sights... etc... you'll have another $800+ added to the cost of your rifle. On these matches, too, the AR15 rules the course. For less than $1k you can get a top of the line competitive AR15 that is MUCH easier to shoot than any M1. This is due both to very good accuracy and to minimal recoil shoving your position around during the rapid fire events. Not to say you won't have FUN with an M1 X-course.. I regularly shoot my Match Grade M1 X-course... but I admit I'll do better in the rapids with the AR. :D

As far as equipment goes the bare basics for any style Highpower event are:

A sling (1907 leather or M1 web). DON'T buy any 1907 other than Turner Saddlery or Les Tam. Most of the others range from "not nearly as good" to Pure-D Crap in quality.
Shooting mat (an old rug works fine for starters)
Padded glove for your left hand (sling pressure HURTS without one)
At least 2 clips. Four is better
Sight blacking
Ammo. Good handloads or match ammo are best and shold be allowed at any range or match. Use milsurp only for 100-200 yds short courses. Some ranges dis-allow any steel core or jacketed bullets. Ask to be sure. Note: Officially sanctioned CMP-JCG matches issue ammo to the competitors.
Last but not least... a spotting scope to see your target between shots.

The one other item that you WILL want after a bit but is not necessary to get started is some form of shooting jacket. This can range all the way from your basic canvas jacket with the rubber pads all the way to the full up thick cordura or leather "hardback" jobs that make you feel like your strapped into a form fitted coffin. The former can be had for as little as $65 and do a GREAT job of letting you learn good position and form. The latter can range in price from $185 to $350 and are what you'll need once you really get into your game.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,
Swampy

Garands forever
 
FYI: We allow 308 garands in our local JCG matches, you just can't win any prizes.

Mainly, just get out there and start having fun!

DAve
 
Swampy, he's held prisoner in the People's Republik of California, so no ARs for him. :(

But nonetheless, the most important thing is to get out there, be safe, and have a good time.
 
There is a great range that holds Service rifle matches in Coalinga. My favorite group of Service rifle shooters is in San Luis Obispo. If you are on the coast on the 3rd sat of the month, those guys are great to new shooters, with coaching, loaner slings, jackets, and scopes.

"The Association's High-Power Rifle Match program shoots on the 3rd Saturday of each month from 8:00 AM (9:00 AM during the summer daylight savings months) until 12:00 noon at the rifle and pistol range, rain or shine. The cost is $10.00. Your admission fee includes prizes given at each match.

Although avid participants prefer customized U.S. military rifles, the match can be shot with any centerfire, clip-fed bolt-action or semiautomatic-action rifle. If you've got a clip-fed rifle, come out and shoot it with us! Willing, friendly help is available to newcomers. Come on out and enjoy yourself.

The rifle and pistol range will be closed to the general public during the match, but everyone is invited to view and/or shoot with us. The Range reopens after the match at 12:30 PM.

Call "Spud" Story at 925-5929 for more information."
 
Here is some more info.

Bakersfield, CA. NRA approved HP Tournament Oct 23rd
KSS. Kern Shooting Sports
October 23 NRA Approved Highpower Tournament 200 yard reduced target.
8 A.M. (preregister at 7:30 A.M.) 5 Dog's Shooting Range
This one sounds good for you

Coalinga Rifle Club, Coalinga, California
November 5,6,7 -- Mid-State Highpower Rifle Regional Championship and Leg Match. Go to this one to see how it is done by the big boys.
 
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