shipping to Ruger - my experience at fedex today

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cane Here's something that might interest those of you who advocate not informing the carrier that you are shipping a firearm. Scroll down and note what "Quinn" was convicted of. http://www.ledgernews.com/news/top_s...797a90609.html
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This case is often cited as "proof" that notification is required under Federal law...........For the kabillionth and one time....notification to a common carrier is ONLY required when shipping interstate to a NONLICENSEE.

If you'll read that "article" you'll see that Quinn violated Federal law by shipping interstate to a nonlicensee, and the "failure to notify the common carrier" was dependent on that act.
 
ArchAngelCD said:
When will it end? We are forced to pay excessive overnight charges because a company can't trust their own employees. It's their problem but we pay the price. You want to save money on buying bulk, well we will fix that. We are going to charge you a hazmat fee even though we really don't do anything special with that package. Again, they are taking advantage of shooters. So I ask again, when will it end?
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I'm sorry, but UPS and FedEx aren't taking advantage of shooters. They're simply passing on a % of their fuel costs to the consumer. It ain't cheap fueling thousands of trucks, and hundreds of airplanes.

Never had a problem shipping handguns with FedEx. I bring them to my local world ship center, tell them it's a handgun. One of the questions they ask is if there is any ammunition in the box as ammo MUST be declared and labeled per U.N regulations.

If you send ammo w/o proper markings and get caught....then you have a real issue.

Everyone complains about high prices, and thinks they're getting screwed over somehow. Do a little research first. It's not that they don't trust their employees as they really don't lose many packages. In fact, of all the firearms I've shipped, UPS lost track of one for 4 days, and then it showed up.
 
I'm sorry, but UPS and FedEx aren't taking advantage of shooters.
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They surely are.

The problem is they cannot control theft of firearms in their system for shipping, so they want them in for the shortest time possible.
 
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When will it end? We are forced to pay excessive overnight charges because a company can't trust their own employees. It's their problem but we pay the price. You want to save money on buying bulk, well we will fix that. We are going to charge you a hazmat fee even though we really don't do anything special with that package. Again, they are taking advantage of shooters. So I ask again, when will it end?
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I'm sorry, but UPS and FedEx aren't taking advantage of shooters. They're simply passing on a % of their fuel costs to the consumer. It ain't cheap fueling thousands of trucks, and hundreds of airplanes.

Never had a problem shipping handguns with FedEx. I bring them to my local world ship center, tell them it's a handgun. One of the questions they ask is if there is any ammunition in the box as ammo MUST be declared and labeled per U.N regulations.

If you send ammo w/o proper markings and get caught....then you have a real issue.

Everyone complains about high prices, and thinks they're getting screwed over somehow. Do a little research first. It's not that they don't trust their employees as they really don't lose many packages. In fact, of all the firearms I've shipped, UPS lost track of one for 4 days, and then it showed up.
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Sorry.....but UPS or FedEx "fuel costs" have NOTHING to do with their policy on shipping handguns. Those "fuel costs" would be the same for ANY box of the same size and weight. (and it shouldn't matter if I'm shipping five pounds of socks or a five pound box of handguns).

UPS and FedEx have no problem shipping rifles and shotguns via Ground.......if fuel costs were the factor as you claim then why don't they require Overnight/Next Day service for those types of firearms.

You ask us to "do a little research first".......so please let us know what research YOU have done. :scrutiny:
 
I recently sent back 2 pistols for warranty work, 2 different manufacturers. The first company's customer service told me to package it well in a medium size USPS Priority Mail box and send it to them. They sent it back a few days later same way, just required a signature and ID.

The second company told me to ship Fedex Ground. Got confirmation it had arrived 2 days after the first pistol had reached its destination. Two weeks later still waiting for that pistol to be returned so I don't know how they'll send it back, but I'm assuming the same way, via fedex ground.

***** yeah, I'm using my phone, big deal *****
 
The first company's customer service told me to package it well in a medium size USPS Priority Mail box and send it to them.
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The first company's customer service rep had you commit a felony. Makes you wonder about the competence and/or integrity of the rest of their operation.
 
The first company's customer service rep had you commit a felony. Makes you wonder about the competence and/or integrity of the rest of their operation.
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It would appear so, but maybe SK is a 01 or 02 FFL holder. (trying to throw some reasonable doubt out there...)
 
I suspect it merely is a profit generating decision for them. There is nothing marked on the box to indicate it is a firearm.

Nothing in Federal Law requires it.
 
I suspect it merely is a profit generating decision for them. There is nothing marked on the box to indicate it is a firearm.
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If by "profit" you mean "lack of loss caused by theft", then you are correct. The truth is that UPS and FedEx employees stole lots of guns prior to this policy. They cannot ensure that they hire trustworthy individuals, and therefore cannot trust their workers. The less time a gun is in their system, the less chance there is for their sticky-fingered employees to grab it.

I'm sorry, but UPS and FedEx aren't taking advantage of shooters. They're simply passing on a % of their fuel costs to the consumer. It ain't cheap fueling thousands of trucks, and hundreds of airplanes.
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And it takes less fuel to transport a rifle in your world? That's why they charge this extra for handguns? Because handguns are bigger and heavier than long guns? I guess I never looked at it that way. I guess I just need to do more of that research you were talking about, then it'll all make sense?
 
The question was asked by someone in this thread about how long shooters will be ripped off by the shipping companies on handgun shipments. The answers are found by reading some of the misinformed responses of those who think "its the law" or about fuel costs. That kind of sheeple thinking is why people get screwed over. These same types probably mail in twice the amount cited on a parking ticket "just to be sure".
 
It seems like ruger would send you a label and charge it to your CC. Not like you are asking then to hire a courier, they can send the label by email.
 
I still like how Rock Island Armory handled my repair. They told me to pack it up and actually had a UPS guy come to my door and pick it up, free of charge. It came back the same way. No hassle to me.
 
Just used Fedex to ship a revolver back to S&W yesterday using their prepaid 2-day label. Instructions from S&W were to inform them that the package contained a handgun. No fuss, no bother. The man and woman behind the counter were impressed with S&W lifetime warranty.
 
I shipped a handgun back to the manufacturer a few months ago. I had to call about 10 FedEx locations in order to find one that shipped guns.
Most of the locations made sure to say that they were not anti gun but didn't want to deal with the hassle of shipping firearms.
The one place that did ship firearms didn't make a big deal out of it. They merely asked if it was unloaded and disassembled. No drama and they didn't even look in the box.
 
TheDaywalkersDad I had to call about 10 FedEx locations in order to find one that shipped guns.
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All FedEx Office locations ship guns. next time instead of calling and asking a minimum wage clerk a question he cant answer, print out the FedEx instructions on shipping firearms and take it with you.

UPS clearly says NO SHIPPING FIREARMS from a UPS Store or other third party retailer.


brickeyee Most of the storefronts are franchises, not owned by Fedex or UPS.
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Nearly all "UPS Store" are franchises.
All "FedEx Office" are company owned (formerly FedEx/Kinkos) and all ship guns.
 
He all but freaked out. OMG he says, I got to go talk to the manager. Waiting, waiting... he comes back and says it has to be over-nighted, "we want these things in our possession as little as possible" he says, as if there were an atomic bomb in the small box in front of him. Then he quoted me $76. I walked out.
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You should've said "OMG"...then walked out.
 
I've twice send handguns by Fed-Ex.

Now this being Texas they didn't ever raise an eyebrow.

But again, it's Texas folks. EVERYONE has a gun here, good, bad, and ugly, unlike up north were only bad guys and cops have 'em (and everyone else is a victim.)

Deaf
 
The head of UPS was interviewed on TV a couple of years ago about their overnight policy on guns. He just about flat admitted that they hire thieves and criminals who will steal guns or anything else that stays in their depots very long. I guess it would cost them more to hire honest people or vet their employees than to just pay off on the losses.

Jim
 
UPS employees are Teamsters - you're saying those union employees are all thieves?

Wonder why my laptop that they delivered doesn't get stolen. The box brazenly says what it is and yet these items which are easy to fence go through all the time. I worked a summer for UPS when I was a teacher - only the driver would be able to steal something as we went through a metal detector and guard shack coming in and out
 
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