FedEx anti CCW

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So I was at my local FedEx and I notice a sign that said, "No Weapons Allowed on Premesis." I ask the employee and she said they ship firearms, but do not allow CCW. I told her I would not ship with them when I am paying for shipping because of the sign. She told me,"that is ok." I wrote a letter to FedEx customer service we will see what happens. Anyone have a similar experience?:barf:
 
Interesting. I use several FedEx/Kinkos locations around here for work stuff and none of them have a "proper" sign (Texas has specific sign requirements).

I never go to the FedEx offices directly, just their Kinko's locations. Have to keep an eye out I guess.

This is one of these weird predicaments for me. They have a company policy apparently, but don't seem to enforce it everywhere.

I'm all for private property rights as well. So, do I boycott on the basis of an unenforced policy? Tough question.....
 
I'm the exact opposite because there's a hub nearby. They do have a no weapons sign up, but it doesn't comply with any posting laws because it covers more than handguns.
 
I am in Michigan, and am in the habit of examining doorways, even of places that I frequent. I have not encountered any posted restrictions at either their FedEx, or FedEx Kinko's locations. It has been a few weeks since I have been to either, so if they do have that prohibition posted, it is brand new.

EDIT: I noticed that letter from FedEx linked to by Double Naught Spy (I have always enjoyed your Jethro-inspired screen name, by the way) refers to a policy which states that "[n]o unauthorized* weapons or firearms are permitted on Company property, in Corporate aircraft, in Company vehicles, or in Corporate buildings." I would suspect that it is relatively safe to assume that, without further elaboration on that ambiguous terminology, my Michigan Concealed Pistol License duly authorizes me. At least as far as their unmarked or improperly marked retail locations are concerned.

*Emphasis added by me.
 
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I was at UPS not too long ago, shipping some things I sold on ebay, and there was a good-ole boy in front of me trying to ship a rifle (in a airlines approved hardcase) and the girl wouldn't let him! Said it didn't comply with their "hazardous materials" regulations. Weird..as for service, I prefer UPS against USPS, and FedEx, just have had good service with UPS
 
Reminds me of a story that happened in my state not too long ago. A guy that worked for a Pizza Hut in Des Moines was delivering a pizza when the people who ordered it tried to rob him. He had his CCW and fired at the suspects, and wounded one. However, Pizza Hut doesn't condone CCW and the delivery guy was fired. Losing your job for protecting your life...sure....makes A LOT of sense to me...
 
I don't know who the "you" is that you are referring to, but perhaps one less cup of coffee would have been enough for today?

And, I believe EMT40SW was just asking a question - if any others have seen the same thing. Don't turn this discussion into more than it is, please.
 
Personally I support FED EXs right as a private business to decide whether or not they want you to bring your firearms on their property. I also support not giving them business if you disagree with it. BUT, FED EX is the only and best shipper for firearms in my area. At least they have a policy where they will ship firearms at all.

BTW, I also support the State's right to regulate that business. If they open their door to the public they should allow people to carry their weapons as allowed by the law. But I'm not sure where to draw the line on that. A business owner should have the right to decide who and what is on his property.
 
I'm curious as to what the consequences are . . .

If it is legal to concealed carry in your state, but they have rules not allowing concealed carry, what are the consequences of getting caught? This is purely hypothetical. I live in California, so it's not my attempt to bend the rules or find a loophole in the law. I'm just curious as to what the law states.

Is anyone informed about this?
 
So I was at my local FedEx and I notice a sign that said, "No Weapons Allowed on Premesis." I ask the employee and she said they ship firearms, but do not allow CCW. I told her I would not ship with them when I am paying for shipping because of the sign. She told me,"that is ok." I wrote a letter to FedEx customer service we will see what happens. Anyone have a similar experience?:barf:
I can top that one,
I am a Locksmith/ Gun Dealer in Arizona. My local FedEx driver has been refusing to deliver my handguns due to his anti-gun views. As a result I now have to make a almost 2 hour round trip down into Scottsdale in order to pick up guns my distributors ship via FedEx. This has been going on for almost 4 years now. Would I like to make this country freer by committing arson at the FedEx?? It's getting more probable every day
 
That's comedy:

1. "No Weapons Allowed on Premises", yet

2. Weapons ARE allowed to be shipped, per company policy

So what do we do, meet the employee in the back alley that belongs to the city to hand over the package? Where does that employee take them - immediately to the main hub?
 
I've had some bad UPS experiences with employees who didn't understand their own companies policy. I tried to ship magazines back to midway for a refund from a UPS storefront, but the clerk insisted I go to a hub and ship them overnight. That would have been appropriate for a whole gun, or a serial numbered gun part, but not a pistol magazine. I didn't argue I just went to the post office.

A friend of mine in Virginia sent a revolver back to Colt for retiming He took it to his nearest UPS hub, where the clerk told him he needed to provide FFL documentation for his "GUN!", either his own FFL or the recipient's. He explained that FFL paperwork wasn't required when sending a fireame back to the manufacturer, that he had done so several times and never been asked for FFL documentation. She said "Well sir, I've been here 14 years and I know for a fact that we've never shipped a GUN to anyone but a licensed dealer, and we need the paperwork to prove it." He told her again that he had shipped several firearms back to the manufacturer for warranty service, and hadn't been asked for an FFL. Her second response was "Well since 9/11 we've had to really tighten our safety standards-"
He told her he hadn't owned any guns prior to 9/11. So she called her supervisor on the phone:

"There's a man here with a GUN, he's got no paperwork or anything but he wants us to ship this GUN. Yes he's standing right here with his GUN. But he doesn't have any paperwork...But it's a GUN!"
After several minutes she put the phone down and said "OK, he'll allow it this time."

The weirdest part of the encounter, according to my friend, was the disdainful emphasis she kept putting on the word gun, every time she said it.

I believe both of these episodes were the result of emplyees 1) being scared of firearms and 2) not understanding gun laws (who could blame them) or their company's policy, thus choosing to cover their tucuses.
 
To clarify: the revolver stayed inside a taped up cardboard box the whole time. He notified the clerk that he was shipping a firearm, per UPS' policy, but never took it out of the box. He didn't stand there holding a revolver in his hand or anything.
 
i live about 5 miles from fred smith's house
i could try to knock on his door and ask ;P
 
I'm curious as to what the consequences are . . .

If it is legal to concealed carry in your state, but they have rules not allowing concealed carry, what are the consequences of getting caught? This is purely hypothetical. I live in California, so it's not my attempt to bend the rules or find a loophole in the law. I'm just curious as to what the law states.

Is anyone informed about this?
In NC you are guilty of armed trespass if anyone asks you to leave their property and you refuse, while carrying a gun, whether it's legal to carry there or not. I'm not sure about places off limits to CCW holders, like schools or bars. I don't knowif you just get your permit yanked, or if you get charged with carrying a concealed weapon just like a non-permitee would. I don't want to find out!
 
My local UPS refused to ship a pistol for warranty repair. I was told that some firearms had been stolen by some of their employees because the employees recognized the shipping address of firearms (Kel-Tec in this case) and presumed the package probably contained a firearm and they would slip the package off the conveyer belt and hide it until a convenient time to leave with it.:evil: Went to Fed Ex and had no problem.:)
 
the employees recognized the shipping address of firearms (Kel-Tec in this case)
I always ship using a pseudonym.
Like K-T Industries for Kel-Tec.
Or Wesson & Smith.
Or SColt Manufacturing

You and I know what these funny names mean.
The carrier's employees (and other prying eyes) don't.


That really isn't an activism plan. This is:

When you get mistreated by a carrier, write a letter (NOT email) to the regional manager.
 
If you have an employee of a common carrier that allows firearms shipments give you trouble over it you should call the local manager and inform them of it. Also inform the local manager that you will be sending a letter to the regional manager informing them of the discussion. Ask the local manager to report back when they've made their corrective action so you don't have to contact the regional manager.

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Are we going to try to come up with a plan to change FedEx policy on this are we just going to grumble amongst ourselves?
 
I've had some bad UPS experiences with employees who didn't understand their own companies policy. I tried to ship magazines back to midway for a refund from a UPS storefront, but the clerk insisted I go to a hub and ship them overnight. That would have been appropriate for a whole gun, or a serial numbered gun part, but not a pistol magazine. I didn't argue I just went to the post office.


Why in the world would you tell them what's in the box? :banghead:
 
No signs at any of the three local FedEx locations I have used in the past year.

Nor at the UPS hub where I have shipped out of lately.

Why in the world would you tell them what's in the box?
The UPS hub insists that the box be open and they inspect the contents before sealing it up.
 
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