Shocked by Chilean Mauser

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Y'all I had to share this. I didn't have many loaded up so I stuck to 3 shot groups at 100 yards with this very Bubba'd Chilean I've have for decades but just haven't shot. Put this cheap scout scope on it and zero'ed it. I tried 3 loads. PPU factory 139's which were all over the place. Then 150 grain Hornady ELD-X in front of 760. Load is about midway up in the Lyman manual. It is on the left 1.5 inches. And 139 Grain Hornady SP - flat based in front of 760 one grain more than the ELDX. It is on the right.....7/8ths of an inch center to center. Mind you I kept the scope set on 2 power so that ELDX group could easily have been me.

I NEVER would have expected this 125 clunker to do that.

BTW....ELDX was 2575fps with a very low spread. Spire point was 2610 with a higher spread.
 

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Very nice little scout rifle. Much more accurate than the Nagant variant me and my brother made some years ago.
 
The early South American and Spanish Mausers were ALL set up for heavier bullets (163 to 175 grains - 10.5 to 12.5 grams) so it's no wonder the heavier bullets still strike a cord. Even for the the lighter ones, a lot of overspin is better than just a little underspin. I rather like 7x57mm.
 
Yeah the fact the best group was with 139 is surprising given the twist and very long throat I did seat them out aways and the ppu 139 didn't shoot well Just very pleasantly surprised with the whole experiment
 
I've got a nice 95 Chilean. It is near new so I don't shoot it much, but it doesn't like the lighter bullets all that much. As long as I stick to the 175 grain bullets is is a near M.O.A. gun. The accuracy of yours does not surprise me at all.

They may not have had today's metallurgy back then, but damn, they sure did a beautiful job of polishing and blueing.
 

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tark said:
I've got a nice 95 Chilean. It is near new so I don't shoot it much, but it doesn't like the lighter bullets all that much. As long as I stick to the 175 grain bullets is is a near M.O.A. gun. The accuracy of yours does not surprise me at all.

They may not have had today's metallurgy back then, but damn, they sure did a beautiful job of polishing and blueing.
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That is in great shape
 
mine is marked lowe, germany. it prefers the 175 round point. the barrel was really fouled bad and nothing would touch it. i finally used a lead remover cloth cut to patches , did the trick. dad gave it to my when i was in junior high school. (66, 67).
 
dieselchief said:
mine is marked lowe, germany. it prefers the 175 round point. the barrel was really fouled bad and nothing would touch it. i finally used a lead remover cloth cut to patches , did the trick. dad gave it to my when i was in junior high school. (66, 67).
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It stands to reason they would prefer the 175 That's another thing that surprised me here since neither of the bullets are optimal for the twist At least in theory But I'm definitely not arguing with what I got
 
Many of the surplus are pretty accurate if you tinker around with them. I bought several of the 39.00 Turk M39 K.Kale Mausers plus a lot of the 154grn 8x57, 70 rnd bandoliers. Real hot stuff and kicked hard. 5-6" groups at 100yds. But hey it went BANG!, Got sick of it and pulled down a bunch and reloaded it 10% reduced. Whole different gun. still kicked but now average 3" groups. Thats with the standard open sights. Win/win. I think a lot of us exspected good accuracy off the bench when they were massed produced to kill someone if you could hit them point blank and farther. Try shooting a 8x56R Steyr M95 straight pull carbine in warm weather clothes. Most of those guys were dressed heavily in the Alps. JMO on what I,ve shot in my collection. Fireball Mosins are similar. Reduce the loads a bit. The 6,5mm Swede is real accurate. I think mild recoil is a big reason.
 
hossfly and dieselchief confirmed my faded memory that Chileans produced in Germany.

Knowing this, these guns' quality should not be a surprise.

If only I had also known when the gun bug Bit (in '07) that "Persian" Mausers were actually Czech....:(:oops:

Many 7x57 Mausers have probably been hidden in German/Austrian homes since the early 1940s
(German police now estimate millions of Unregistered guns), and the 7x57 cartridge might still be quite popular in various Euro countries..
 
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The 7x57 is a masterpiece of a cartridge in terms of balance of power/recoil.
The 1893 Spanish and the 1895 Chilean prefer the heavier bullets. I believe the Brazilians are the same. The lighter 139gr just don't have the sex appeal of those long thin bullets...or the round nouse..soft point 173-5gr round nose is the ideal load if ya ask me.

They shoot so soft, I want a Brazilian one day. It'd be nice to have.
 
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My 1895 from dad. Haven't shot it.View attachment 1074707 View attachment 1074708 View attachment 1074709 View attachment 1074710 View attachment 1074711
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Wow! and I thought mine was pristine!!! Sometimes I just take mine out of the safe to marvel at the polishing on the bolt and the bluing on the rest of the gun. Especially the bolt. I have never seen any rifle, made by anyone, at any time, sporting or military, that is as finely finished and polished with zero machining marks and every surface as smooth as glass.
 

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