Short Lane Blackout Reloadable Shell?

[TruthTellers]

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http://www.gunadapters.com/12-gauge-...ck-out-series/

Has anyone ever used this? If yes, what were your thoughts?

It's a steel adapter that allows shot to be loaded on top of bp (no smokeless) and is ignited by a 209 primer. It ships with #5 lead shot, but for those who have used it, have you ever used buckshot, like #4?

 

[oneounceload]

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[rcmodel]

Try this.
http://www.gunadapters.com/black-out-series/

Myself, I'd rather take a modest beating then deal with cleaning black powder fouling out of a modern gun after firing one shot with that thing !!

Just not worth all the trouble.

You can buy 12 ga buckshot shells that won't rust your hole shut if you skip a cleaning or two.

rc

 

[ROAshooter]

shot

Nope....waste of time and money....

60 bucks and worn out after 20 rounds....how much thought does this take?

 

[Pete D.]

Reload

It is not worn out after 20 loads. When ordered, the shell is sent with enough components for you to reload 20 times. After that, you are on your own as far as components are concerned.
Properly cared for, the thing should last a long time.
Is it worth the $60? Not if you have any knowledge of how to load a BP shotshell.
Note about clean up.....I would not use these in a modern gun. I would use them in an old Ithaca that I have. I do not believe that this is intended for use in a modern gun.

 

[TruthTellers]

When they go on sale, they sell for $40. That's the price I intend to pay if I ever get this.

 

[ROAshooter]

"When they go on sale, they sell for $40. That's the price I intend to pay if I ever get this."

which shotgun are you going to use this in........

 

[oneounceload]

Might be cheaper to just load some regular ones or spring for some brass hulls.

 

[plumberroy]

For a bout $90 you can get 10 cnc turned brass hulls from rocky mountain cartridge

 

[TruthTellers]

For a bout $90 you can get 10 cnc turned brass hulls from rocky mountain cartridge

and for $1/hull I can get extruded brass hulls from Magtech.

 

[oneounceload]

And for free you can get plastic hulls at the local club

 

[TruthTellers]

And for free you can get plastic hulls at the local club

Yeah, but they got no style man.

You gotta have style

 

[ROAshooter]

You gotta have style


soooooo thats how you picture yourself??

 

[kozak6]

If you don't have a shotshell press, it could possibly make sense. However, it's not particularly difficult to handload black powder shells

If any of your friends reload, that would be a better solution.

Email the manufacturer to see if it will take buckshot.

 

[plumberroy]

and for $1/hull I can get extruded brass hulls from Magtech.

Magtech brass hulls are thinner and take large rifle primers , you need to buy a larger wads, cards and overshot cards . The come in 2 1/2 in only Rocky mountain cartridge hulls are the thickness of a plastic hull so to use any modern component come in any length you might need and use shotgun primer.
If you are shooting a a break action shotgun you can reload shot shells with a small flat piece of metal, a punch small enough to fit the primer hole and a dowel rod just smaller than the inside of the hull
Roy

 

[TruthTellers]

Magtech brass hulls are thinner and take large rifle primers , you need to buy a larger wads, cards and overshot cards . The come in 2 1/2 in only Rocky mountain cartridge hulls are the thickness of a plastic hull so to use any modern component come in any length you might need and use shotgun primer.
If you are shooting a a break action shotgun you can reload shot shells with a small flat piece of metal, a punch small enough to fit the primer hole and a dowel rod just smaller than the inside of the hull
Roy

Yes, it is a break action I'd be shooting.

So you'd say go with brass shells and forget the black powder adapter?

 

[Pete D.]

rmc

Rocky Mt, hulls are the berries. Properly cared for, you will be able to leave them to your grandkids. They just do not wear out.
You can use them with either BP or smokeless powders.
They use 12 gauge components....Magtech hulls are 11 gauge inside and thus normal 12 gauge wads are too small; you have to build a traditional wad column of nitro cards, fiber wads and overshot cards. (You can do that, too, with RMC hulls but you do not have to.)
This one is loaded with a BPI Thug Slug over 90 grains of SR4759 (bolt guns only)

 

[plumberroy]

Yes, it is a break action I'd be shooting.

So you'd say go with brass shells and forget the black powder adapter?

That is what I would do. before I would spend $40-$60 for one of the adapters from short lane . if I lived were I could hunt out from the back yard (so I could use them a lot ) I would order 10 2 5/8" ten gauge hulls from RMC. I have played with cut down plastic hulls with 1 1/4 - 1 3/8 of shot a cut down remington wad, hand cut overshot cards sealed with elmers glue shot out of my 32" barreled mod choke H&R it will out pattern most of my full choked 12's and is a pussycat to shoot. I loaded them with a lee loader the no press set. But as I said in the earlier post, I could reload then just as easy with a pin punch and 5/8th wooden dowel a flat piece of metal for tools a lee scoop set would get you enough to measure powder and shot
Roy

 

[d2wing]

Gathered say they are designed fr Damascus barrels. These hulls would give a little more protection for those rare guns. I know a guy that had a very valuable collection of them, many from royalty. This would allow them to be fired.

 

[JSH1]

Yes, it is a break action I'd be shooting.

So you'd say go with brass shells and forget the black powder adapter?

I would try reloading some spent plastic shells. If you decided you like it and want to get fancy then buy the brass shells.

I see no reason to pay $60 for one reloadable shell.

 

[oneounceload]

Gathered say they are designed fr Damascus barrels. These hulls would give a little more protection for those rare guns. I know a guy that had a very valuable collection of them, many from royalty. This would allow them to be fired

As would sleeving or using subgauge tube sets

 

[PapaG]

Looks like a solution to a problem that hasn't arrived yet.
A nail, a plastic mallet and a dowel rod are about all the tools you need to load plastic hulls with black powder. Much neater than loading a steel hull and then adding shot and wad down the barrel (if I understand this thing correctly).
I've loaded literally thousands of bp shells in 10 and 12 ga for matches up in WI and locally and found that the Fed paper hulls work best.
Three drams on top of whatever primer you want followed by a couple standard .035 or an .070 card, a 1/2" fiber, 1 1/8 to 1 1/4 oz shot and either crimp or glue on an over shot wad.
Plastic wads aren't the best as they tend to shred and load up the bore after a few shots.

 

[TruthTellers]

That settles it then. I think I'll go with extruded brass shells from Magtech and use steel rod to deprime and aluminum dowel to reload.

For the over shot wad adhesive and sealant, is there anything better than waterglass?

 

[PapaG]

Waterglass works great. Bought a quart in the 70s and still have some left. Shot some old brass shells loaded in '78 with it last year and the one in barrel #2 was still holding after firing #1.
Duco cement works good as does good old Elmer's.

 

[Pete D.]

Duco...I use Duco...as you say, it works well.
I was surprised to hear that years old shells sealed with Waterglass were still viable. I, too, have a quart of the stuff. Like it very much but found that it did not store well....got powdery after a month or two.

Truthteller: you can get the 11 gauge components that you will need from Circle Fly.

Pete