Shot .44Mag and .500S&W for the first time...

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I had a few idle hours, so I stopped in the local indoor range yesterday to try out a few guns I'd been wanting to sample.

I've shot a handgun twice previously, .38spl, .357Mag, and 9mm. I picked up a Ruger GP100 .357 last week and shot it quite a bit this weekend...in short I'm hooked on shooting handguns.

I won't mention it too much since this is the revolver section, but I shot 50rds through a Sig 245 .45ACP, and a Ruger P90 .45ACP. Decent guns, I was considering a semi-auto and wanted to see how .45 felt. The Ruger failed to feed a few times but they were easy to shoot in general. After the session, I'm definitely more of a revolver guy though...based on trigger quality alone.

I then tried a .44Mag Redhawk with 6" barrel. 240gr American Eagles as sold through the range. First round I was pretty nervous due to what you hear about a .44Mag's recoil, and the Redhawk had the standard grips with exposed strap. I lit it off and was pleasantly surprised with the recoil. I realize it wasn't full boogie ammo, but it was just a big "thud" and easier to control then the .357Mag snubbie that I had shot previously. Very little muzzle rise, most of the "recoil" is simply the big thud you feel from the muzzle blast. I ran 50 rounds through that gun, with somewhat decent results by the end shooting at 10 and 15yds. The SA trigger was pretty rough so it took a bit for me to figure out that I needed to trap the trigger with my second knuckle, then I was able to get some decent groups.

I figured that went so well, I'd try out the .500Mag they have available as a rental with the 8" compensated barrel. Range ammo is 330gr 1450fps, so not too stout. I bought 20rds and headed out. Again, I was a bit nervous, but had a better idea what to respect. It's definitely a huge gun, but felt pretty balanced to me with this barrel and was extremely steady. SA trigger was very nice, first round was a dead on the X at 10yds. I know it's pretty pathetic to shoot this gun at a 10yd target, but I just wanted to experience a big bore and see what it would do. I ran the remaining rounds through it, the muzzle blast is obviously impressive in an indoor range. The recoil was definitely more stout then the .44Mag, but it was again more of a "thud" and didn't have much muzzle flip with this light round. The muzzle flash was there, but I don't think it was distracting...the targets were showing powder burns though at 10yds. Accuracy at 15yds was great as well, again this is obviously a joke for the capabilities of the gun.

Anyway, I went there to answer a question I had about the practicality of buying a .454Casull over something like a .44Mag and I was able to answer that. I have no doubt I could handle 100 .44Mag or .45LC rounds, and the occasional full boogie .454 would be fine, so I like the idea of the .454Casull. I'm a new shooter and it's fun to feel the power of the big bore stuff while I learn how to become a more consistent accurate shooter. I will say, I think the .500mag is questioned a lot as to whether it's a "cartoon" gun so to speak, made for press rather then a real purpose...but after shooting it I don't think it's even close to being over the top, and can be used for practical shooting assuming someone hand loads to bring ammo prices down.
 
I know exactly what you mean about the practicality of a 454. I really enjoy shooting big bore revolvers and one thing about the 454 that really interests me is the ability to shoot 45 LCs through them. I haven't taken the plunge to pick up a 454 yet, but it's always in the back of my mind.

I also think that 44 mag recoil is over-rated, especially with a 6" barrel.
 
I know a .44Mag will do anything that is required of a handgun, but I like having a bit extra, and having a somewhat more unique gun, so I liked the idea of the .454. Not to mention, you can get it in an excellent SRH platform for $550ish used with scope rings included. Load it down with .45lc for "plinking", which should be extremely manageable in a gun as large as the SRH. Shoot up some .454 when I feel like lighting off some big boomers. Big bores are definitely fun stuff.
 
Sounds like you are doing pretty well for a new shooter. Congrats on the GP100, good choice. So you didn't like the feel of the triggers on the Sig or Ruger autos. You need to try a good 1911. Nothing else feels as good, except maybe a SA revolver. I'm not saying anything bad about the Sig, as I have a P220 on my hip as I right this.:)
 
Last week I fired my recently purchased Colt Anaconda with a 4 inch barrel. Needless to say this old womans right hand, right wrist and right elbow were hurting after only 12 rounds. Firing this hand gun was my first introduction to FLINCHING and FEAR. Yes fear. After firing the first round I had to suck up my ego and continue firing and just so I could save face I fired another 6 rounds that day.

Now with the passage of time and the pain gone I'm going back out to the range to fire more .44 mag ammo. I've been given some instruction that may fix the problems I encounterd the first time I fired it. Seems I was holding it wrong. I was holding too low on the grip and my arms were straight. Of course I could blame everything on my arthritic hand,wrist and elbow.

I can see it now. Grandmother breaks hand and wrist at local gun range. Film at 11.
 
Well, I don't know if I'm doing well...but I am improving which is the goal at this point. I can achieve "one ragged hole" at 15yds now, but I am inconsistent at times...and this is relatively short range. I'm learning trigger control which has helped the most.

The guns I shot were rentals, so no telling how consistent they were with the feel of other guns that didn't see such heavy use. The Sig had the better trigger by far, but it was fairly heavy and very "sudden" when it did break. The Ruger was scratchy, and rough...it was very difficult to squeeze it consistently, besides being extremely heavy for SA. The Ruger was the same way, very heavy and rough feeling so it was hard to pull it smoothly. The .500 SA trigger felt very much like my GP100 SA trigger...very little creep but very smooth and consistent up to the point of release, making it very easy to squeeze without jerking. I'm sure better technique on my part would help with all types of triggers, just reporting what I found. I didn't get the opportunity to try out a 1911, they have a Springfield GI available...but I'll be sure to try it out next time.
 
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The .44 is way over rated. I blame it on Clint Eastwood and Hollywood during the 70's. There's no real differance between a .44 and a 9mm. :D
 
The .44 is way over rated. I blame it on Clint Eastwood and Hollywood during the 70's. There's no real differance between a .44 and a 9mm.

I agree, also what is with the .45? I would accept nothing less than 50 AE in an auto or .500 in a revo.:neener: kidding of course.

Glad you enjoyed shooting some big guns, I have worked my way up to them over the years. They are more expensive to shoot than smaller rounds and having a 44 Mag started me into reloading. Reloading really opens up the full range of what you can do with these guns, and makes me think of 454/45LC as being more practical than I would have before.
 
Shooting the 500 (even for the 4 inch) is not as bad as being portrayed on the net (recoil). Not even taking handloads into account. You can buy reduced loads (UltraMax), Magtech, both, not the best for being clean, but accurate. Good for target shooting at 1/3rd the price of the premium loads.

Theirs Winchester (my favorite) with a 400 gr. platinum tip hollow point, that’s a concrete buster. Good load if you have to renovate your driveway. No need for a jack-hammer. This is the one to be aware of. The trade-off, for breaking through to the other side, is recoil.

Their is Cor-bon, which they also have both reduced loads (500 Special) and their Hunter, DPX line. Theirs others as well I have not tried. Buffalo Bore and Grizzly Ammo. These are “smell the coffee in the morning” loads, I hear.
 
I shot my Ruger SRH .44 this morning with 240 grain XTP handloads averaging 1450 fps. Accuracy and power...I am a sucker for it every time.

I haven't had the pleasure of shooting the .500 S&W. I want to though :).

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
You had a great experience at the range. I know the appeal of the big bores. But it is hard to shoot them well. IF you are new to revolvers, I would suggest that you get a 357 first, then move on up to 44 (my preference is 41 mag), and then 480 Ruger rather than 454. The 480 Ruger can do anything the 454 can do except shoot 45's. But why shoot 45's in one when you can shoot something smaller that the gun was designed for.

I shoot my Trooper Mark III in 357 a fair amount since I refound the 357 mag. Also have a 3" GP100 that I use for ocassional range shooting at relatively short ranges; but it's purpose is the house gun. I really enjoy shooting 41 mags and prefer them over the 44. Everyone talks about ammon availability and cost of the 41 mag, but frankly it is priced about the same from what I see. The 480 is my "deer hand cannon" and it fills that purpose well. I have no need for a 500 or 460 S&W as the 480 is plenty of power.

Good luck shooting revolvers. They are a lot of fun.
 
I'm with 22 - Rimfire

on the .480 Ruger. Great cartridge...even more so if you have the advantage to handload. Hope more catch on to this round and it's potential.
 
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